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Raf1394 12-15-24 12:18 AM

Its the involvement off foreign countries that still make things worse.

Turkey for example will always try to weaken the Kurds in Syria for gaining more land or power. I don't believe Turkey will sit back and see a region growing under Kurdish influence.

When there is peace. That Kurdish region in Syria can stabilize it.
I honestly believe there will be no real peace. There will still be fighting going on in Syria. Maybe not a larger scale like we had the last years. But still fighting.

Ostfriese 12-15-24 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Raf1394 (Post 2936466)
I honestly believe there will be no real peace. There will still be fighting going on in Syria. Maybe not a larger scale like we had the last years. But still fighting.


Way too many parties have a serious interest in keeping the middle east unstable, so I'm certain you're right.

Skybird 12-15-24 09:46 AM

What is most relevant is that the Syrian air defence has almost seized to exist, opening an aerial approach vector for Israel to Iran where it does not depend on compliance by Jordan or Saudi Arabia.

And with recent reports on that Iran is edging in to critical enrichment levels... :hmmm:

Thats why Iran was so heavily invested in Lebanon and Syria - to help keeping Israeli air strikes on its bomb building program away, at least reducing their effectiveness by making things complicated for Israel. But right now Israel has open skies right up into Iraq.

Jimbuna 12-15-24 09:55 AM

After all that has taken place in the region since Hamas invaded Israel I expect Israel will maintain its dominance over said region.

Jimbuna 12-15-24 09:59 AM

Turkey ready to offer military aid to new Syrian rulers

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Defence Minister Yaşar Güler has expressed Turkey's readiness to offer military support to the new Syrian leadership, a statement from his ministry said on Sunday.

Turkey, a member of NATO, had agreements with several other countries on military training and other assistance and would offer this to Syria if requested, Güler said.

While the Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) Islamist movement, which led the assault on the regime of Bashar al-Assad, is listed as a terrorist organization in Turkey, Ankara maintains strong links with its leadership.

The director of Turkey's National Intelligence Organization, İbrahim Kalın, visited Damascus on Thursday. And on Saturday, Turkey reopened its embassy in the Syrian capital.

Al-Assad's fall and flight to Moscow on December 8 has prompted a major political realignment in the region, with Russian and Iranian influence severely dented.

Turkish forces have been engaging Kurdish separatists in the north of Syria, as Ankara seeks to expand its influence.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...b55e3aac&ei=32

Aktungbby 12-15-24 10:34 AM

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:hmmm:...methinks Baba Vanga is right, and the collapse of Assad's regime will simply commence WWIII in earnest ala the shot fired in 1914 at Sarajevo. With Turkey which controls the Bosphorus preventing the travel of Russian warships out of the Black Sea, Putin will be loath to give up his western Syrian bases and influence in the eastern Mediterrainian Sea. With ally Iran, also bereft with the fall of the Assad regime, the matter will escalate out of control.

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Originally Posted by Raf1394 (Post 2936466)
Its the involvement off foreign countries that still make things worse..

...precisely. Damascus will prove to be the Sarajevo of WW III...a mere 110 years later; particularly with antichrists like Putin, Xi, and Trump currently on stage...and to think I just paid off my house loan yesterday!:O::damn::dead:

Jimbuna 12-15-24 12:39 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukkQL6lx3A4

Jimbuna 12-16-24 09:43 AM

Ousted Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad breaks silence after fleeing to Moscow

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Ousted Syrian President Bashar al-Assad claimed he had no plans to leave the country after the fall of Damascus but the Russian military evacuated him after their base in western Syria came under attack.

The comments are the first by al-Assad since he was overthrown by insurgent groups earlier this month.

He said in a statement on his Facebook page that he left Damascus on the morning of December 8, hours after insurgents stormed the capital. He said he left in coordination with Russian allies to the Russian base in the coastal province of Latakia, where he planned to keep fighting.

He said that after the Russian base came under attack by drones, the Russians decided to move him on the night of December 8 to Russia. "I did not leave the country as part of a plan as it was reported earlier," he said.

His whereabouts, as well as those of his wife Asma and their three children, were initially unknown, until Russia said Assad had left Syria after negotiations with the rebel groups.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...7c62595b&ei=16

Aktungbby 12-16-24 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2936621)
Ousted Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad breaks silence after fleeing to Moscow

:hmmm:....oh I see, blame it on the Russians!??:shucks:...In today's WSJ, the hunt is on for the A$$ad regime's half century of stolen billions.

Dargo 12-16-24 11:46 AM

European Union nations on Monday set out conditions for lifting sanctions on Syria and kick-starting aid to the conflict-ravaged country amid uncertainty about its new leaders’ intentions just over a week after they seized power. At a meeting in Brussels, the EU’s top diplomats said they want guarantees from members of Syria’s interim government that they are preparing for a peaceful political future involving all minority groups, one in which extremism and former allies Russia and Iran have no place.
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Dutch foreign minister says closure of Russian bases in Syria will be among European conditions to support Damascus.
The only reason HTS wanted to oust Assad was because he needs the sanctions to be lifted they destroy his economy.

Jimbuna 12-16-24 11:54 AM

In the meantime Two Tier Keir gives them £50 million :doh:

Moonlight 12-16-24 06:06 PM

He's been splashing money about like confetti since they discovered a black hole in the UKs finances, perhaps the thick currant should spend some cash in the UK as well, you know, like on people who don't get this pension credit benefit.

Skybird 12-17-24 07:31 AM

This should be taken note of.

https://www.meforum.org/mef-online/w...-syrias-future


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As has been widely reported, the government of Israel has been engaged in recent days in preventing the emergent Islamist regime in Damascus from possessing any but the most rudimentary military capacity. Some have questioned the motivation for this action. In this regard, it may safely be assumed that what the civilian researcher (and former IDF military intelligence officer) Alex Grinberg knows, the government of Israel also knows. What HTS started and finished in Idleb is now in Damascus. Israel’s decision to disarm it as far as is possible is likely to yet be considered prescient.

At the moment, Jolani is trying to ensnare the West and wrap it around his little finger by using the very words that the West loves to hear. And once again, I fear, the West is stupid enough to fall for it all too readily.

Dargo 12-17-24 12:35 PM

Thousands of bodies have been discovered in a mass grave near the Syrian capital Damascus. Mouaz Moustafa, the head of the Syrian Emergency Task Force, a US-based Syrian advocacy organisation, said in an interview with Reuters news agency that at least 100,000 people were killed by ousted President Bashar al-Assad and his predecessor (and father) Hafez. That number has not been independently verified. It is known, however, that some 130,000 people went missing under the Assad regime. An unknown proportion of these ended up in the infamous Sednaya prison just outside Damascus, where prisoners were tortured to death or executed. Estimates of how many people have died since the start of the civil war run to over 600,000.

The Netherlands' demand for Russia to close its military base in Syria before discussing easing sanctions with the new leaders is shared by several foreign ministers, EU foreign chief Kaja Kallas said. ‘We will raise this condition in talks with the new leaders at different levels,’ Kallas said on Monday at a closing press conference after the meeting of EU foreign ministers in Brussels. Before the start of that meeting, Foreign Minister Caspar Veldkamp put that condition on the table. According to Kallas, more EU ministers want the new Syrian leadership to ‘get rid of Russian influence in Syria’. It is a base for the Russians to carry out actions in Africa, but also in Russia's southern neighbours. ‘This is certainly also a concern for European security,’ he said. Several Arab countries also feel the same way, Kallas heard when she was in Jordan this weekend to discuss developments in Syria with a number of Arab leaders. They too have concerns about Russian influence in Syria ‘which they do not need and do not want there’, the EU foreign chief said. She said it is certainly an issue on which the EU can cooperate with a number of Arab countries.

The leader of Syria's main rebel group, Ahmed al-Sharaa, wants all the country's armed groups to merge into one army. He said this in talks with representatives of the country's Druze minority. After the fall of President Bashar al-Assad, one of the big questions is how Syria's many armed groups do not descend into conflict among themselves. Al-Sharaa plans to disband the various ‘armed combat groups and incorporate the fighters into a national army’, which should fall under the defence ministry. To what extent this is a realistic plan remains to be seen. For instance, the pro-Turkish rebel groups are on bad terms with the Kurds. Even after Assad fled the country, fighting between them still took place in the northern city of Manbij. Only after mediation by the United States did it come to a shaky ceasefire, which allowed Kurds to retreat towards the autonomous Kurdish region of Rojava, further to the east of the country. Talking to the Druze, a small population group that feels threatened by Sunni radicals, Al-Sharaa further said there should be ‘a social contract by which the different ethnic groups live together’. Among the Druze living in the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights, there are increasing calls for them to join that country.

mapuc 12-17-24 02:51 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZO4bPhxSq4

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