Bilge_Rat |
11-26-15 11:05 AM |
some more stuff.
this is what Erdogan said in 2012 when a Turkish F-4 was shot down by the Syrians:
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In 2012, Ankara accused Syria of shooting down a Turkish F-4 Phantom. That plane crash-landed in the Mediterranean after veering into Syrian airspace. In response, an outraged Erdogan lambasted the Syrian military for acting in haste.
"A short-term border violation can never be a pretext for an attack," he told Parliament at the time.
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http://sputniknews.com/military/2015...radiction.html
even though Turkey now takes the position, it can shoot down any plane which enters its air space, it turns out the Turkish air force is deliberately violating Greek air space on a daily basis, including a flight of 6 planes yesterday:
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Even though Turkey has outlined its tough stance and rules of engagement when it comes to intruding aircraft in its own skies, it has hugely increased its own violations of airspace claimed by Greece over the past three years. Data recorded by the Greek military has shown that Turkish aircraft violated its claimed airspace 2,244 times in 2014. By October of this year, Turkish aircraft had made 1,443 intrusions with the financially-weakened Greek military stuggling to respond.
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http://www.forbes.com/sites#/sites/n...r-infographic/
other pilots in the area heard the Turkish warnings:
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A civilian pilot who was in the sky when the Turkish military issued a warning to, and ultimately shot down, a Russian fighter jet has provided Al Arabiya News with a recording that proves the Turkish authorities issued several warnings to the plane.
The pilot, who was flying a Middle East Airlines (MEA) flight from Beirut’s Rafic Hariri International Airport to a Gulf country at approximately 9:00 a.m. (local Lebanese time) yesterday also verified the authenticity of a similar recording which was uploaded on the information sharing website LiveLeak which many international media outlets have carried.
“I confirm the authenticity of their recording, I heard these exact same warnings over and over again and the part I recorded on my phone was actually towards the end when I felt the matter was getting serious,” the Lebanese aviator told Al Arabiya News on the condition of anonymity.
The version of the recording obtained by Al Arabiya News from this pilot clearly proves that Turkish authorities were issuing repeated warnings to the Russian aircraft that they “were approaching Turkish air space”.
“Unknown air traffic position onto Humeymim 020, redirect to 26 miles. This is Turkish Air Force speaking - en guard. You are approaching Turkish airspace. Change your heading south immediately.,” the Turkish officer was repeatedly saying.
There was however no response from the Russian side, which Al Arabiya’s source says has been the case for weeks.
The MEA pilot explained that from what he gathers, Tuesday's incident was not the first as he had heard similar warnings over his radio transmission for the past month.
“I heard similar warnings two or three times a week, on every flight I took for the past month.
“What was different this time is that the Turkish officer was shouting and seemed tense, while the warnings were much calmer in previous times… this is why I knew something was going to happen,” he added.
No-fly zone?
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http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic....28413&start=30
notice the part I bolded, it does sound like Turkey had made up their mind on how they would react beforehand.
Question is did Turkey do this on their own or did they check with certain NATO partners beforehand? :hmmm:
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