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Wolferz 08-20-13 07:49 AM

The feds are putting the fence on the wrong border. Move it to the west in a more vertical fashion and install customs facilities.:up:

California IS like a country all its own...
One trip I made out there, I was stopped at the CA/NM border for a load check. They wanted to know what I was bringing into their state. I was like: Whisky Tango Foxtrot! over! Are you kidding me!?!?:huh::hmmm:
Every other state only wants to know how much you weigh.

I asked the guy; "Is Hamburger Helper considered contraband?" :stare: I was surprised that it wasn't. Bunch of Tofu eating idjits.

Aktungbby 08-20-13 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 2102706)
:haha:

Since your so happy with what I said, ill say a little more.

I have the opinion that I do, AND..... I was born in California. I grew up there. From kindergarten through high school. The state was my Home of Record while in the military. When I got out of the military, I went to college there. After that, I worked and lived there for over a decade.

What makes me different then other people from there? Being former military, I'm fairly well traveled. I've lived in other parts of the country, and other parts of the world. When I moved away from that cesspool called California for the last time, I did so with the knowledge that a different place means a different culture, different attitudes, and different beliefs. I left California behind me, and I did NOT bring it with me. Unlike other people that I have seen. I moved, left California behind, I integrated into my new home, and became a Utahn. I'm quite proud of this state, and of my new home. It's where Ill raise my family, and where I will someday be buried when my time comes.

The Peoples Republic of Cantaffordya can kiss my buttocks! :haha:

THat's LECHEN mein ARSEN in the Uboot Waffe Ducibby.Transplanted my- self I might join you in Utah as they have better holidays; Pioneer Day and the opening of deer season.:arrgh!:

Aktungbby 08-20-13 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2102852)
Can we all stay classy please and try to get along.

You never know, I may have California on a future holiday wish list and if mrs buna reads this I'll be forced to scratch it off.

Send word ahead to the wine country we have soccer, rugby and castles too.:arrgh!:

Jimbuna 08-20-13 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 2102891)
Happy holiday!

Recently learned a far more efficient mode whilst in Turkey and I know California has similar thermals :03:

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6351/07mw.jpg

Ducimus 08-20-13 04:19 PM

More stupidity from the California, peoples republic of.

LA Community College drops NRA class after six years due to new regs

Now to be honest, I'm surprised that a community college would offer a firearms safety course. That said, I think it's a great idea. As much as liberals bitch about the NRA, the organization is the leading trainer in safe and proper handling, regardless if they choose to acknowledge that or not. As American citizens, we ALL have the right to keep and bear arms regardless if we choose to exercise that right or not. As a right that we are all supposed to have, proper training/education should be readily available for those who seek it.

That out of the way, here's the bit's that i really "liked".

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Board of Trustees Vice President Scott Svonkin, author the resolution that ushered in the new rules, told Campus Reform last Monday he believes school’s have no place teaching students how to use guns —but that its educators and faculty do have a responsibility to “promote gun control.
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“She said they are not allowed to even have the mention of the world ‘gun’ in their campus catalog, which I find utterly ridiculous and a total violation of the First Amendment … now this is a First Amendment issue," he said.
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Svonkin, who authored the resolution, told Campus Reform that he himself was not sure what “non-operational” meant.

“You know, I’m not an expert in guns,” he said.
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“I believe that the NRA's goal is to promote gun ownership, and that guns lead to deaths,” he said. “So, not having the NRA teach classes, not having the NRA classes on our campuses, is a good thing.”

“I’m much happier with the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department protecting our students and our staff and our faculty than having some random person who took a three-hour class and thinks that they’re Dirty Harry,” he added.
So according to these idiots:

- Training and education about guns is bad. Ignorance is preferred.

- In the liberal world, you can pick and choose what natural rights exist and throw the rest out if you don't like them.

- They're not sure about guns because they don't believe in educating themselves about them, nonetheless they ban stuff they don't understand because they're jackasses.

- Guns are evil that will make a person do stupid things. It's not the person, it's the gun!

I suppose it wont be too long before even going through a hunter's saftey course will cause issues over there. After all, going hunting involves guns! OMG! BAN IT!

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On a more humorous note, I'll toss this video link in:

The Nature Of Guns (How Anti's Think They Behave)

Tchocky 08-20-13 04:46 PM

Campus Reform - Objective and even-handed.

Stealhead 08-20-13 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 2103163)
More stupidity from the California, peoples republic of.

I think that is pretty ridiculous when they make a rule that you can not even say a common word.:yeah:

You could use the word gun for so many non malicious reasons.For example how can you have a debate in a contemporary ethics class about gun control when you can not say the word gun on campus? Of course it says that they would not use it in the catalog not ban the word outright.

I would have a serious case of turrets syndrome at that campus.I would also have them play "I fought the Law" over the P.A. system.(2nd verse)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0sI6eFarFE

I have always challenged authority especially when it is corrupt(it always is in some way no matter the so called system being followed).I am surprised they allowed me to be an NCO in the Air Force of course that is because I actually did the job unlike half the people even in the military even as an NCO I stuck my neck out and said what I thought.If someone tried to mess with one of my troops and I knew it was bogus I would not stand for it either by going the official route or stepping out back if need be. Smart commanders actually like people like me being surrounded by yes men tends to blind you and it must get annoying receiving false respect.You want the real pulse not the one that you want to hear.

Ducimus 08-20-13 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 2103175)
Campus Reform - Objective and even-handed.

Yeah the inference the name of that publication makes wasn't lost on me.

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Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 2103176)
).I am surprised they allowed me to be an NCO in the Air Force of course that is because I actually did the job unlike half the people even in the military even as an NCO I stuck my neck out and said what I thought.


I'm surprised you made NCO too. I know all too well that sticking ones neck out and saying what you think will NOT get you far in the Air Force. LOL

CaptainMattJ. 08-20-13 05:57 PM

And some of the worst people I've ever met are from Utah, Provo in particular. That doesn't mean everybody from Utah is a terrible person, and that doesn't make Utah a terrible state.

In the same way it doesn't make any state in the union a "cancer". There are plenty of states i passionately dislike but i don't wish to see removed, or damaged, or beaten by cataclysms. I don't like New Jersey, that doesn't mean i hoped for Sandy to roll through and tear up the state.

Its hard to treat anyone's opinions as respectable when the hypocrisy, one-sidedness, and contempt become overwhelming.

Ducimus 08-20-13 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ. (Post 2103204)
And some of the worst people I've ever met are from Utah, Provo in particular. That doesn't mean everybody from Utah is a terrible person, and that doesn't make Utah a terrible state.

In the same way it doesn't make any state in the union a "cancer". There are plenty of states i passionately dislike but i don't wish to see removed, or damaged, or beaten by cataclysms. I don't like New Jersey, that doesn't mean i hoped for Sandy to roll through and tear up the state.

Its hard to treat anyone's opinions as respectable when the hypocrisy, one-sidedness, and contempt become overwhelming.

You know what, I make no apologies. You can be upset, and I really don't care. Nor do i expect you to respect my informed opinion on that cancerous cesspool you call a state that is utterly bankrupt in every context imaginable. Frankly, based on past posts that i think you in particular made on constitutional and states rights, I have you figured as a poster child of that state. Your a big boy, I'm sure you can figure the rest out.

Tchocky 08-20-13 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 2103217)
You know what, I make no apologies.

How brave.

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You can be upset, and I really don't care. Nor do i expect you to respect my informed opinion on that cancerous cesspool you call a state that is utterly bankrupt in every context imaginable.

Frankly, based on past posts that i think you in particular made on constitutional and states rights, I have you figured as a poster child of that state. Your a big boy, I'm sure you can figure the rest out.
Ugh. The posters in this thread happily anticipating the destruction of communities are neither big nor clever. They don't get any points for thinking outside the box.They're simply adding to the ranks of the loathsome and would be well advised to leave it off the boards.

I'm surprised this rubbish hasn't been locked or removed. Exchange a US state for an ethnic group and estimate how long the thread would last.

From past postings it seems you were in the armed forces. Isn't there some sort of oath involved?

Hypothetical one for you, Ducimus.

Car crash in Bakersfield, a woman rolls from the wreck, on fire. California tags. Her driving license flies clear and lands in your lap. Californian born and bred.

What is your action as a bystander?

Wolferz 08-20-13 07:04 PM

After driving around Los Angeles more than a few times and enduring the impatience of the resident motorists who seemed gleeful in pulling out in front me instead of waiting their turn to merge. Y'all can keep your fender banging state. Then there was the Cali truck driver who cussed an out of state driver over the CB. Telling the unfortunate fellow; " Just bring me my effing food and get the eff out of my state!"
The water smells bad too.:-? I took a shower prior to crossing the Nevada/Cali border so I wouldn't be forced to bathe in the stench.

I won't go as far as wishing calamity on the Golden state, but I won't shed tears for it when it happens to your arrogant behinds:stare:.

Ducimus 08-20-13 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 2103220)
How brave.

Incorrect. Posting on a messageboard does not make one brave. I just choose not to play nice by saying exactly what I think out of animosity.

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Ugh. The posters in this thread happily anticipating the destruction of communities are neither big nor clever.They don't get any points for thinking outside the box.
Destruction that I was not advocating. I'd rather people from there, stay there, because more often then not, when they move elsewhere, they bring the "Californian attitudes" with them, going to other peoples home states and communities, advocating change where change was not warranted, asked for, nor wanted.


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They're simply adding to the ranks of the loathsome and would be well advised to leave it off the boards.
There is much too loath about the PRC. Thanks for providing an outlet by the way.

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I'm surprised this rubbish hasn't been locked or removed. Exchange a US state for an ethnic group and estimate how long the thread would last.
As much as politics is batted around this forum, i'm not sure why your surprised.

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From past postings it seems you were in the armed forces. Isn't there some sort of oath involved?
Yeah I did take an oath, and the very first part of that oath is to support and defend Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic; but somehow I don't think you would know much about that. In fact, given current events over the last year, I have put some serious thought about joining the political organization known as The Oath Keepers.

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Hypothetical one for you, Ducimus.

Car crash in Bakersfield, a woman rolls from the wreck, on fire. California tags. Her driving license flies clear and lands in your lap. Californian born and bred.

What is your action as a bystander?
I don't feel like going on this fishing trip. Too contrived. Your gonna have to find more subtle bait then that.

EDIT:
As an aside, I hate California as only one who lived there etching out a crappy existence, and making a far better life for themselves elsewhere could. Not everyone hates California as much as I do (on the other hand, maybe a few do), but my life has improved 10 fold by leaving it behind, and it's that realization that makes me hate that place all that much more. The place is indeed a cancer. It kills you slowly without you realizing it.

CaptainMattJ. 08-20-13 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz (Post 2103232)
After driving around Los Angeles more than a few times and enduring the impatience of the resident motorists who seemed gleeful in pulling out in front me instead of waiting their turn to merge. Y'all can keep your fender banging state. Then there was the Cali truck driver who cussed an out of state driver over the CB. Telling the unfortunate fellow; " Just bring me my effing food and get the eff out of my state!"
The water smells bad too.:-? I took a shower prior to crossing the Nevada/Cali border so I wouldn't be forced to bathe in the stench.

I won't go as far as wishing calamity on the Golden state, but I won't shed tears for it when it happens to your arrogant behinds:stare:.

Angry, self-centered driving spreads out much farther than the extremely congested freeways of LA. I assume youve never been to New York?

And similarly i can recall many, many encounters with snobby out-of-state jerks that were impatient, rude, and extremely irritating. Again, being an ass is not confined to California, they're everywhere.

Generalizations can easily go both ways.

Ducimus 08-20-13 07:49 PM

Wolferz,

Sadly he does have a point. People in my area can be far ruder behind the wheel then Californans. You wouldn't think it, but its true. It certainly took me by surprise. I think the reason is, here they don't run the risk of being shot at. (which is funny when you consider that roughly 50% of households here are gun owners.)

In California, you don't flip anyone off because of fear of being involved in a freeway shooting. (Which is odd when you consider this thread title). In Utah, generally speaking such things are almost unheard of, so it's not a conscious thought.

My wife attributes the rudeness to pent up frustration, and the road being an outlet. Most here are Mormon. They are the nicest people in the world most of the time, but they seem to get their frustrations out on the road because they have no other outlet.

As an aside people in california are better at driving in congested traffic conditions. Utahns suck at it. Conversley Utahns are much better at driving in inclimate weather conditions, where as Californians typically can't drive in the rain for squat, let alone drive in the snow.


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