What absolute bollox:doh:
If however Manning told the press that a CIA front was working in Benghazi to recover missiles looted from Daffys arsenal you might have a point about a target being given to the terrorists.
But it was Doherty who made that information public wasn't it.:yep:

DISTRACTION at work.

The controlled media distracts the public away from the dealings and wheelings of the government against the public and breeds 'discussion' among the public to point any action against itself.
Information is interpreted by controlled media to create a reality that motivates the people in a way the rulers seem fit. Followers are welcome, neutrality is welcome (it supports the stronger by default), critics are unpatriotic.

The support of a government that declares any evil doings of the government - total surveillance of the society, lies, torture, war crimes, terror, murder - to be secret, so nobody can tell or talk about it any more.
What does this tell us about a society?

Distraction!

also Discreditaton...?

That is what i often observe, especially the rare times i watch TV shows.
The moderator is asking questions to A as well to B.

A can not prove a thing, but spills acid on B.
No matter what facts and proof B tries to come up with... he is cooked.

discreditation, diffamation manipulation and opinion are more effective than stepping back and using your own brains.

as i understand the situation , the US gov't has tools: Use the Government elements, Senators or the like to push the intermediate level (corporations) in publishing facts and stories to form an opinion.
Add to that the rvocation of his passport, warrants to his arrest...

The media is newspapers, Radio, TV run by red or blue factions are all under the US gov't Rule, and not neutral at all.
oh they Try... but bee too neutral about the subject, you get your fingers slapped as well, and branded as unpatriotic.
Anyone publically openly supporting that evil whistleblower will get in trouble like you would under Stalin...:hmm2:

Snowden has tools - the net and a few trustees, themselves at risk of being killed, and the net as a base to publish his messages.

what is sad is he can not reach the entire internet connected population... themselves supervised, snooped on, manipulated... by countries like china.

I haven't heard of Snowden's family being randomly arrested on unrelated charges to make him come back and personally co-operate with Obama, but would be intrigued to hear more about this. It would be a great addition to my thesis' introduction and conclusion chapters.

Stalin's methods are a no-no for the US?

The US send troops to murder innocent bystanders of people who are suspects. They kill suspects without any legal trial. They torture innocent people to give information about their families and friends. It is even legal to kill Americans, if the government thinks fit.

Ecuador offers support for Snowden.
Will Ecuador have to face US economic sanctions?

I don't know about that, since I'm sheep enough to read the mainstream media. But having studied the era of high Stalinism rather extensively lately, I would definitely say that dancing on the graves of the victims of a real genocide to make a point is.


Well, based on my International Politics 101 course I got indoctrinated to believe that the US is now probably not going to send a Happy Birthday -card to Ecuador, at least.

Guantanamo

Gitmo is a terrible stain on America(and the nations which helped), but comparing it to Stalins reign of terror is a ridiculous stretch.

true dat.
a stain it remains.
which is my point.
they do not do it on a large scale.
but they still ******* your life if they want to.
for no appearent reason at all but mere suspicion.
with no end in sight, not even an accusation.

The world sees that.
the Crap output by the Elected Rulers of the US is rising.

if it were the general average Joe ruling the US Country, i believe it would be different. Power to the people and all that.

yet they warn Putin that he aint playing fair.
Vodafone???

The problem with that idea is that the general average Joe, being a human, tends to be just as big a dickhead as the humans already in office

Okay.
then remove Average Joe Dickhead from the equation.
...:timeout: (everything comes to a screeching halt)
stopped just short of saying: kill all americans.

And no, it aint better in other places.

American dickhead warning russian dickhead to not play dickhead or slse they be even less friends than they are now.

Both of em are dirty as hell.
and are fighting over some guy that has the vision to expose their dirt to the world to see, and react to.

Russian? American?
Both sides are ridiculous.
Both sides are suppressing States.

It is a disgusting situation.

Obama has announced there will be no bartering for his return and he will be dealt with through 'routine legal channels'.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23084166

...when i see it.
after all, he poked the watchdog...
:)

for now, he having vodka and Kaviar, most likely.
and i sense he will be there for a some time...
if the Russians do not throw him out?

Just don't send him to London to stay with Assange :o

Hitler. I win.


Aye that. We'll get back to this subject once Obama's personal insistence on the country's economic direction has caused the whole Houston's metropolitan area to starve to death, and the people of Houston have been prevented by a new law from moving away from the city under the threat of being sent to Guantanamo for not complying.

Among other things.