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Tribesman 06-10-13 03:09 AM

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No, he did not falsify records, the charges were dismissed and he disposed of the arrest file as no arrest was occurring, the man was simply detained since his arrest was not processed, so remove the arrest file is tantamount to deleting a draft of an email, as the arrest was not processed(nor should it have been) , much like an email you decided not to send.
Clueless, absolutely clueless.
Do you know anything about the story at all? It certainly appears not.

It was only a matter of time before someone posted it here after Alex Jones ran with it on his loony website, you just happen to be that someone.:up:

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How DARE you say the 2nd Amendment is irrelevant you , well ill stop. :/\\!!
Wow, CAPSLOCK strikes again:rotfl2:
It is entirely irrelevant, it makes no difference if he was arrested for jay walking or for breaching floridas concealed carry laws.
It really is that simple.

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Really, you have no clue, you simply try to distract from the issue here as always and insult me but you are not even a resident of this country let alone Florida or Northern Florida to be more specific so you have no clue of how things work, because if you did you would know his being an "outsider" affects this process.Also, you would know his personal run in with Governor Scott does have bearing on this.
Are you trying to prove my point for me?
More red herrings than I could possibly hope for....all irrelevant.:yep:

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Basically, you are an pro government boot licker who is talking out of your hind quarters as per usual.
Well the only appropriate response to that nonsense is....
:har::har::har::har::har::har:

Lets make it real easy for ya, little baby steps if you like to move you through the very simple process which is the only relevant issue in the whole story.
Shall we for one moment assume that you somehow manage to graduate from that law school of yours where the staff all know "nothing about law".
You miraculously get a client, the client wants to sue for unlawful imprisonment, say in this case he was put in a cell for dropping litter.
Can you produce the custody record which shows when and where he was locked up and how long he was held in the cell?
Now lets make the big leap to the actual story.
You do know what a custody record is don't you? Do you understand why they cannot be falsified?:hmmm:

On what you have written so far with all you irrelevant attempts at spinning it off into something other than what it is, I think it is fairly safe to say you have not got the faintest idea what you are talking about or what the officer is being accused of doing.

Mittelwaechter 06-10-13 07:07 AM

BOSTON, Mass. — Human rights activists say revelations that the US regime has expanded its domestic surveillance program to private phone carriers is more evidence of the North American country’s pivot toward authoritarianism.

The Guardian, a British newspaper, reported this week that a wing of the country’s feared intelligence and security apparatus ordered major telecommunications companies to hand over data on phone calls made by private citizens.

“The US leadership in Washington continues to erode basic human rights,” said one activist, who asked to remain anonymous, fearing that speaking out publicly could endanger his organization. “If the US government is unwilling to change course, it’s time the international community considered economic sanctions.”

Over the last decade, the United States has passed a series of emergency laws that give security forces sweeping powers to combat “terrorism.” But foreign observers say the authorities abuse those laws, using them instead to monitor ordinary Americans.

While the so-called Patriot Act passed in 2001 is perhaps the most dramatic legislation to date curbing freedoms here, numerous lesser-known laws have expanded monitoring of news outlets, email, social media platforms and even opposition groups — like the Occupy and Tea Party movements — that are critical of the regime.

US leader Barack Obama, a former liberal community organizer and the country's first black president who attracted a wave of support from young voters, rose to power in 2008 promising reform. He was greeted in the United States — a country of about 300 million people — with optimism. But he has since disappointed those supporters, ruling with a sometimes iron fist and continuing, if not expanding, the policies of the country’s former ruler, George W. Bush.

On a recent visit to the United States by GlobalPost, signs of the increased security apparatus could be found everywhere.

At all national airports, passengers are now forced to undergo full-body scans before boarding any flights. Small cameras are perched on many street corners, recording the movements and actions of the public. And incessant warnings on public transportation systems encourage citizens to report any “suspicious activity” to authorities.

Several American villagers interviewed for this story said the ubiquitous government marketing campaign called, “If you see something, say something,” does little to make them feel safer and, in fact, only contributes to a growing mistrust among the general population.

“I’ve deleted my Facebook account, stopped using email, or visiting websites that might be considered anti-regime,” a resident of the northern city of Boston, a tough-as-nails town synonymous with rebellion, told GlobalPost. It was in Boston that an American militia first rose up against the British empire. “But my phone? How can I stop using my phone? This has gone too far.”

American dissidents interviewed by GlobalPost inside the United States say surveillance by domestic intelligence agencies is just one part of a seemingly larger effort by the Obama administration to centralize power.

The American leader, for example, has in recent years personally approved the jailing — and in some cases execution — of American citizens suspected of involvement in what the regime calls “terrorist activity.”

“What exactly is terrorism? The term is used so loosely these days it could include just about anyone,” said one anti-government protester, who was tear-gassed and then arrested in 2011 for participating in a peaceful demonstration in New York, America’s largest city and its economic capital.

Obama has also overseen a crackdown on whistleblowers, most famously jailing Bradley Manning, a US soldier, for leaking documents that called into question US military actions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The government quietly imprisoned Manning for three years before finally trying him in a military court this week. He spent the first nine months of that in solitary confinement, where prison officials forced him to sleep naked without pillows or sheets and prevented him from reading newspapers, watching television or even exercising.

Activists also criticize the US regime for imprisoning without trial foreigners it deems threatening to national security in an offshore prison camp called Guantanamo Bay. This week an investigation revealed that the US regime force-fed Guantanamo inmates participating in a hunger strike. Force-feeding is illegal under international law.

Meanwhile, whispering in the streets about what the regime might do next has reached a dull roar. But after a national uprising in 2011 by the leftist Occupy movement ended in evictions, arrests and tear gas, Americans appear hesitant to take their anger into the streets.

Most major media outlets, which in the United States are largely controlled by politically-connected corporations — many of them, in fact, financially supported Obama’s election — have been relatively quiet on such issues.

Foreign observers, however, say the recent news about domestic surveillance is spreading wildly in other ways — on Twitter and around the dinner table. They say the news has the potential to spark an uprising — at least among urban, educated elites in the country’s major cities — mirroring those happening now in Turkey and that earlier swept parts of the Arab world.

One foreign businessman who works closely with the US government on issues of security said he thought Obama was too well-established and had too strong a security force for any challenge to its authority to take hold.

“This isn’t Tunisia,” he said. “This is more like China, where a massive security presence could easily put down any organized opposition movement.”

The businessman added that Obama was democratically elected twice, which he believes gives the leader enough credibility to weather any serious opposition to his rule.

In a small, unassuming house near Boston’s bustling seaport, though, supporters of the opposition disagreed, saying the leader had lost “all credibility.” The group said the opposition continued to organize and grow, and that it was just a matter of time before the rest of the American population joined them.

Indeed, different political factions are beginning to unite over the issue of domestic surveillance, despite their strong differences.

“We meet in person these days to talk about strategy, phones and email are no longer safe for us,” one of them said. “Our goal now is to just get out the message to the world about what is going on here. That’s the first step. We need to educate not only Americans but the world about the extent the US regime is controlling the lives of its citizens.”

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/n...ey-cover-world

Tribesman 06-10-13 07:49 AM

That piece reads like it was written by a genuine idiot.

August 06-10-13 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mittelwaechter (Post 2069430)


You forgot the first paragraph of the article:

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This is satire. Although the news is real, very little actual reporting was done for this story and the quotes are imagined. It is the first installment of an ongoing series that examines the language journalists use to cover foreign countries. What if we wrote that way about the United States?

Dowly 06-10-13 08:12 AM

Hahahaha :rotfl2:

Wolferz 06-10-13 08:47 AM

Big difference between tongue in cheek and fish hook in mouth.:03::haha:
It was interesting and a bit funny to say the least.

Obamas' regime...:har::rotfl2::haha:

Sailor Steve 06-10-13 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 2069398)
Clueless, absolutely clueless
Do you know anything about the story at all? It certainly appears not...Wow, CAPSLOCK strikes again:rotfl2:...Lets make it real easy for ya, little baby steps if you like to move you through the very simple process which is the only relevant issue in the whole story.

And here I just defended you, asking him to show one place in this thread where you actually insulted him, then you turn around and do it several times in one post. It doesn't matter what you or I may think about the way he posts, you've been infracted before for this kind of dismissive attack, and you're just a step away from having it happen again.

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Shall we for one moment assume that you somehow manage to graduate from that law school of yours where the staff all know "nothing about law".
You miraculously get a client, the client wants to sue for unlawful imprisonment, say in this case he was put in a cell for dropping litter.
Can you produce the custody record which shows when and where he was locked up and how long he was held in the cell?
Now lets make the big leap to the actual story.
You do know what a custody record is don't you? Do you understand why they cannot be falsified?:hmmm:
Still insulting with the opening statement, but a fair challenge. I'm curious about the answer myself.

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On what you have written so far with all you irrelevant attempts at spinning it off into something other than what it is, I think it is fairly safe to say you have not got the faintest idea what you are talking about or what the officer is being accused of doing.
Absolutely uncalled for in an honest debate. I'm sure you know what that is, even if you think he doesn't. Please try to stay with the discussion and away from the personal attacks.

MH 06-10-13 10:11 AM

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This is satire. Although the news is real, very little actual reporting was done for this story and the quotes are imagined. It is the first installment of an ongoing series that examines the language journalists use to cover foreign countries. What if we wrote that way about the United States?
Look for political asylum in china?:haha:

Dowly 06-10-13 10:28 AM

Nicholas Finch's arrest warrant, to clear up what he is charged with:
http://media.graytvinc.com/documents...st+Warrant.pdf

Tribesman 06-10-13 10:46 AM

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And here I just defended you, asking him to show one place in this thread where you actually insulted him, then you turn around and do it several times in one post.
Did I?
I asked a very simple question.......

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Simple question bubbles did the cop falsify the police records?
As a supposed legal expert you should know what crime that is.
I addressed his reponse to that question
His response shows that he appears to know nothing of substance about the story at all. Which means he is indeed clueless on the issue.
The warrant is very specific about what was falsified, it was backed with forensic evidence and sworn testimony.
That single specific thing is all the story is, which means all the rest of bubbles writing on the topic is just irrelevant hot air.
In fact since he hasn't gone anywhere near the actual issue then "all the rest" really covers "everything he wrote".

Mittelwaechter 06-10-13 11:03 AM

Kim Jong Un is looking at things.

Oh wait...

http://obamaischeckingyouremail.tumblr.com/

Look at the sinking freighter on the wall!

http://abload.de/img/tumblr_mo3lmxzlhs1sumrcub4.jpg

I allways knew he is here at Subsim.

Sailor Steve 06-10-13 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 2069493)
Did I?
I asked a very simple question.......

In intentionally insulting question.

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His response shows that he appears to know nothing of substance about the story at all.
Now your trying to defend yourself while insulting him again.

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Which means he is indeed clueless on the issue.
More personal insults.

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That single specific thing is all the story is, which means all the rest of bubbles writing on the topic is just irrelevant hot air.
In fact since he hasn't gone anywhere near the actual issue then "all the rest" really covers "everything he wrote".
And more. You were warned.

Mr Quatro 06-10-13 12:57 PM

I like anything that has to do with our government that has three little letters in it ...

I wish they would find a way to make money off of this legal data gathering ...

Legal for them that is ... perhaps sell the information gathered to people that always seem to know what you are doing online ...

example I looked up a book one time and the next thing I know it's being offered to me online on the side over there where it says advertisment.

How did they know?

I wanted a thermos one time and I checked Amazon ... the next thing I know the same thermos at you guessed it Amazon was advertised over on the side of the web page I visited.

What if the NSA or the CIA or the FBI ... where do they keep these secrets at anyway, offered pictures for sale of alien space craft kept in secret hangers in Nevada ... offered them for sale from the government archives or for a profit kick back from other companies involved in the investigation of such outrageous claims ...

Would it help ease the burden of the national debt ... I think so :yep:

Go ahead NSA catch my neighbor with bombs on his mind ...

I for one care and approve of what you are doing :cool:

Dowly 06-10-13 01:02 PM

Uh... what? :doh:

Spiced_Rum 06-10-13 02:03 PM

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According to the BBC:

Mr Snowden told The Guardian he flew to Hong Kong on 20 May, after leaking information about the National Security Agency's surveillance programme,
He said that he chose Hong Kong because the city has "a spirited commitment to free speech and the right of political dissent".
This man is a criminal at best, having deliberately leaked classified intelligence. Not only has he betrayed his country, his treason further threatens Western democracy because he went to China. No doubt he was warmly welcomed there and has been thoroughly de-briefed by those friendly Hong Kong security officials.


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