Going to a bar and requesting some Madonna music.... :rotfl2: What's the bar's name? THE EMPTY CLOSET!

There is this show called Trailer Park Boys in Canada about guys who get out of jail and document their lives to show others what not to do. In one episode they decide to open a bar and they tell the village idiots to go pass out flyers in different bars in town. Well, on opening night... "Everybody is requesting Madonna and teen pop stuff...." and they go ask the idiots where they passed out the flyers and they passed them out at "this new bar called The Empty Closet" :rotfl2: It was funny.

Yeah! Yeah! What about White History month?!

This thread is doing nothing but making me laugh. What started out being a serious discussion about a current event has turned into senseless bashing and humor.

:dead: Disaster...

No more than people feeling uncomfortable with males teaching in daycares or sitting next to strange men on airplanes or boys showering with girls in gym class. Not every male is attracted to every female just the same but society has chosen to "protect" the comforts of those who are uncomfortable for a reason. But now society seems to be forcing gays on straight males and mixing them in an environment that makes straight males uncomfortable while gay boys get the privilege of looking at tons of male butt every day - much of it they may very well be attracted to. And if a straight male feel violated and beats the tar out of a gay male then I'm sure the straight male will get hit up with "hate crime" charges. It's totally unfair.

No further than the discriminatory and exclusionary step of refusing access to all women to the Boy Scouts goes too far. The BSA is not a co-ed organization. The reason that the co-ed division exists is because of sexuality. Homosexuality is sexuality. What's the difference?

The same way it would if we made the Boy Scouts co-ed. You have brought sexual tension into a situation that did not openly contain it beforehand. You cannot deny it wouldn't have a major impact.

Putting on our pants in the morning was the true first level of complexity we face. There have been a lot of layers of complexity since. I never claimed sexual segregation makes the Boy Scouts complexity free just less so.

Whether that is a good thing or not depends I think upon the group. Do you think human sexual habits are something the Boy Scouts should be concerning itself with?

So you really think it won't be that big of a deal? Well good luck getting the churches to agree with you and they are the ones who keep Scouting going. If this causes the BSA to fragment and die will this exercise in social engineering have been worth it? I find that difficult to accept.

I'm sure he does. Seems like the man-hating feminist movement wants to turn males into a bunch of eunuchs and women and Obama seems ready to hand over his nuts to them on a silver platter and expects all men to follow his emasculating lead. Sad.

Here's a woman advocating for 4th wave feminists to find ways to get men pregnant... (wouldn't be men anymore if we gave birth so I assume she wants to live in a world without men. Standard male bashing feminist drivel)

"I have been forced to revise my earlier thesis. There will be no true equality until men can give birth. Fourth-wave feminists need to get in the labs and start experimenting. " - Lucy Mangan

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/wom...ing-of-me.html


Here's a feminist who believes all women are goddesses and that the world needs an "International Castration Day" to take place on father's day whereby all the females in a village, town, city, state need to physically emasculate males through forced castration. She's taking donations on her site.

http://femitheistreborn.blogspot.com...y-refined.html

Silly? Yes. But people probably thought the same thing about homosexuality a long time ago as well. And now it's taking over so this could very well become a reality one day as well. There's enough males in society who seem to really hate themselves for being male, that or they just hate other men and want all the women to themselves and are willing to pander and bow down to women if they think it will land them in the sack with women. I call these men - manginas or white knights.

It shouldn't be this easy to have this much fun.

That's a great point. If everyone just minded their own business and kept their mouth shut about where they prefer to dip their tallywhacker or where their neighbor is dipping theirs it wouldn't be a problem or a controversy. Unfortunately neither side is going to back off and that's why I think this could really damage if not destroy the BSA in the crossfire.

Excuse me but there is no excuse for beating up someone because they "feel violated".

The practice of sexual segregation is well-established with single-sex schools, sports and so on.
There's an important distinction to be drawn here between gender and sexuality. Segregation of gender happens all the time with children, because boys and girls grow up differently in terms of development and biology and such. Segregation of sexuality doesn't and shouldn't happen. A gay boy* grows up the same as a straight boy, segregating this out further just causes problems, as far as I can see.

*=for sake of this argument let's assume sexuality is inherent

Certainly an impact, not sure about major at all. I'm not sure it's worth the general negativity of excluding people on basis of sexuality, which as you point out is not what Scouting is about.


Gotcha!

Not at all, but the BSA is directly involving itself by excluding on the basis of sexual preference. Of course, the discussion now about changing that rule brings it all up again, but that should all quiet down once it's decided.

There have been plenty of companies withdrawing donations because of the discriminatory policy, the scouts are out of money either way, perhaps.
Definitely a sad thing to happen, but if basic homophobia turns out to be the only thing holding it together then I'm not sure if it's worth keeping. Six of one :)

Go into any woman's bathroom in America and see if you don't get beaten out of there with fists and feet and purses and get arrested as well for being a perv. Are you saying women are wrong to do this? Or is it only wrong for men to fight back?

Straight people are silent about their sexuality. When's the last time you saw a straight pride parade? Seems like the gays are the ones rubbing their junk in everyone's face.

Gay pride exists because gay shame exists.

And that exists in part because of people like you.

But now there's straight pride and that exists because straight shame exists.

And that exists in part because of people like them.

The sword cuts both ways. But I don't think that mixing gays with straights is fair to straights. It's like forcing boys and girls into mix company and taking showers together and that would be fair to either boys or girls who would feel uncomfortable in that environment. I can't see how any father would allow his son to be potentially sexually violated. I worked in a youth basic training program one time and it allowed gays in and a 17 year old gay black kid raped a 14 year old white kid and his parents showed up and were outraged. They sued our program and we had to shut the program down after only 2 years of operation because that family got tons of money from the incident. We couldn't protect kids and that's exactly what's going to have in the BSA and it's going to rock the whole program because nothing like that has happened in the BSA yet that I'm aware of. First time it happens and people are going to be withdrawing their sons from it and never looking back. And with less churches donating to the program the BSA is going to be dead in the water within a year probably. Sad to see it go out this way. Political correctness has destroyed America.

That's one of the most ridiculous & stupid things I've ever read. Seriously.

How many straight people get beaten up or shamed or bullied for their sexuality?

There's been numerous straight people sexually assaulted and taken advantage of by gays. Just look at all the prison rape for one. It's not straight men raping gay men in prison.

Christ on a bike. FOR THEIR SEXUALITY