Gustav I think your slapdown really hit the troll hard and he didn't like it

"Yeah like I care what you forgive or pity."

^^
Notice the rolling eyes emoticon.

You know it hurts him even more as it was a foriegner who showed him up:har:

But I like how someone with a big local pervert problem is trying to run down someone from a little country which can in fact impact on the problem MA faces with its clerical nonces.

I fail to see how the word "foreigner" is so relevant on an international Internet forum.

Really? I'm no expert but I believe that in most western nations civil law trumps Canon law every time. If this is not the case in Germany then you do have a problem.

Again I ask the question..if a crime has been committed what exactly is preventing the justice system, police and courts, from pursuing a case?

And why do they need an independent study to proceed?

Agreed, not much different than the mafia. When I see one of the big "whatevers" at the Vatican, the millions spent on outfits, men acting so holy, makes me sick. They recently excommunicated a woman for speaking out for wanting women priest, while the Vatican continues to simply move child abusers to other areas where they can continue raping kids.

The cases at hand are past the statue of limitations IIRC. That's why the police can't do much about it.

It wouldn't be , unless of course someone has a problem with foriegners.

But his attempt really fails when his local top nonce protectors are part of an international order and both recent holders of that position hold posts in places which come directly under the jurisdiction of legal institutions in that pesky little country he was trying to run down.
Whoda thunk any lowly Luxembourger could ever have any say in what the clergy of Massachusetts can be doing eh:rotfl2:

I understand. Have there been any recent cases of abuse that are not covered by the statue of limitations and have any of these cases been hindered by the church from being prosecuted?

Eh! with all due respect!
IIRC, Neal is American.
Therefor the Subsim is american turf, because this is , sort of, Neal's backyard we are playing in. Right?
I am a foreigner, and that is all right. :)

and no, i didnt mean to slap anyone. that's not what i am here for.
i am here cause i want the Church to come forth and say what they did. and then for them to pay the price for their actions.
and then be dismatled, in a similar fashion that states are trying to dismantle drug cartels.

Because some Religions, in an organized Form... is a Drug.
In my book at least.

If anything, it is Neal's turf, not America's. Ever since I first met Neal, he has been very clear that this is an international forum, where people from all nations are welcome and free to express their opinions within the perameters that he has established. As such, being an American does not grant one or one's views special status, nor is being a non-American a handicap in regard to expressing one's opinion.

Okay.... well put. will adapt attitude.
not that i particularly care for any "national" factors one way or another :D

I don't think there have been any recent cases, however I'm not up to date on this.:hmm2:

I don't think it's your attitude that needs to be adapted.

I propose that Subsim is Subsim and anyone here is of Subsim nationality, therefore a Subsimer from Luxemburg is not a foreigner to a Subsimer from the USA.


Here's my observation thus far. The biggest cause of bad temper in a religion oriented topic is that people don't distinguish religion as an institution (like the catholic church I wish it was just disbanded) and personal faith (which everyone has a right to it). I'm a fan of Dawkins, but can't stand his attacks on the personal belief of individuals, even if they were influenced by the ''megachurches'' or god forbid (pun intended) the vatican.