Apparently you do not watch the Baltimore news. No doubt what killings were murder....all of them!

Right, because a parent's right to have their child learn in a legally-required public school enviroment where the teacher is not carrying a gun is an infringement on your right to carry your gun wherever you go. You want to visit a school, leave your gun at home. I don't think that's unreasonable.

Where in the Bill of Rights does it grant you the right to carry your firearm in every and any setting and location? It gives you the right to own and to use. That right is still intact.

And I don't want to pee in anyone oats. School massacres get the media attention. The individual shooting at school do not. The first day of school in Baltimore a autistic student was shot in the back with a shotgun while he sat in the cafeteria.

Yeah, but we'll all be dead by this time tomorrow anyway. So, it's all academic.

Oh no, I was not implying that at all. By all means - I'll stab someone in the eye with a rusty fork if it means saving myself or a loved one. And I would be happy to have a gun in that kind of situation, as would anyone. The real question is how likely that situation is and whether being armed to the teeth is appropriate.

What I mean is that having a society where guns are the first line of defense is a bit problematic. And frankly, I fail to see how sending a child to a school where there is a one in a million chance of a madman going on a rampage is scarier than sending a child to a school full of people with guns, most of whom I do not know (and therefore cannot trust) personally. After all, the Fort Hood shooting was carried out by someone in a position of authority and trust, who had plenty of training with firearms. And in a world where you can't trust an Army major with a gun, how can you trust a teacher with a gun, alone in a class full of kids?

I know that this is inherently paranoid thinking, but it's a good illustration of the issue. I don't know, to me this just seems like opening a Pandora's box, and a very expensive one.

I'm not buying that story. :O:

:haha:

I hope you're wrong, because I just blew my kids' college fund on Rolos. Livin' for the now.

EDIT: I've got to give you credit, GR. Your thread took off like a rocket. Holy crap, seven pages in about an hour.

Talk to you tomorrow. :haha:

Question:

Serbia has the highest number of guns per capita after the US, why has there only been one rampage in Serbia in recent times (2007). Switzerland is number four on the list of guns per capita, most Swiss men have an assault rifle at home after completing their national service, yet when it comes to gun based homicides it has quite a low rate, and I can't recall a single school shooting there. Why is this?

Answer:

I have no idea, but it's something to think about.

These men don't play violent video games. :O:

Yep. Alarming amount of these mass shootings happen in the US, I remember
seeing a map that listed all the mass shootings from the past 50 years or something like
that and large majority of them had happened in the US. :dead:
(I have no idea if said map was just propaganda or fact, though)

Like it's been mentioned number of times, mental health care would imho be the way to go.
Of course, it wont completely eliminate the problem, but *maybe* it would
help at least in some cases. :hmmm:

On the mental healthcare deal....by and large I think pills are prescribed(in the US) a bit to freely and those that do take the pills to keep them "level" my not be keeping a regular schedule in taking the pill or possibly can not afford the pills in the first place.

That all sounds a lot like Skybirds take on Freedom from Religion. What other Constitutional rights would you deny people when in proximity to your children? Freedom of speech, right to trial by jury? What?

Now if only criminals followed the rules eh?

First off where does it say I don't? Secondly the BoR says citizens have the right to Keep and BEAR arms. Now where does it say "...except for places where anyone might object"?

This might be more objective:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...amed_massacres