The American people threw themselves on the telephone and the Internet after Barack Obama today's television speech once again urged the public to hear from the members of Congress and urge them to reach a compromise.

Should have really been done two decades ago. I think it would cause more damage to America now than it would solve. :yep:

This sums it up nicely.

http://media.economist.com/sites/def...730_WWD000.jpg

US House and Senate divided over debt ceiling issue
 

John Boehner: ''I stuck my neck out a mile to get an agreement with the president"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14351148

Note:30 July 2011 Last updated at 02:03 GMT

What a joke. It was already a given that Boehner's plan passed congress, it wouldn't the senate. We know Reid's plan won't pass congress. So in the background they've been working on plan C...Why waste all this time voting for two plans that all knew would be doomed to failure and just keep working on one plane, instead of all this time wasted.

Who know, they keep saying we won't default, but seems possible. No doubt we'll lose our rating.

The government cooks it's numbers to adjust inflation, anything they do, but economic groups that look at real numbers say we're gonna be in a double dip recession and by next summer many say it will be much worse.

Why is it where ever you live in the world that the average man on the street can see it and politicians can not or will not?

Good post. :up:

I've been thinking the same. The time for symbolic plans or votes that have no chance of garnering support from the other side has long since passed, yet they still keep doing it and still keep blaming the other side. Ridiculous.

The paradox of it is to get a sustainable solution, the whole world may be shaken if there is not an adequate decision, as most countries are directly dependent on the U.S.and their market is leading, in many different fields.

Because the average man on the street does not have the responsibility of actually running a country. He can freely express his opinions and there are no consequences if he is wrong.

As much as I despise our congress, and I do, I do recognize that Congress has a difficult job of not only running the country, not just a select few issues, but at the same time dealing with necessary compromises both within the legislative branch as well as with the Executive branch neither of which may be cooperative at any one time.

Decisions which may appear to be "self evident" to the average man on the street, may in actuality be rather complex and complicated.

What the average man on the street does not know about running a country can fill a large database.

Yeah congress stynks, but a congress is the best of the worst ways of running a representative government.

I can respect the difficulties that congress faces, but I can still despise them for not doing their fricking job. :stare:

Congress: Just do your fricking job of running the country and not just running for re-election.

:har::har::har::har::har:

Like that will ever happen. If it were not so frickin depressing, it might actually be funny. :cry:

US Senate in intense debate over debt ceiling
 

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid: "There is no more time for delaying tactics"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14354088

Note: Update Record, 30 July 2011 Last updated at 20:56 GMT

Got clued up checking the worldwide news Mark and I must agree :yep:

This is an example how responsible the US Government ISN'T, with the US Peolple's Money:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fotvZ4C7ecA

Over a billion dollars per year to import people, to "fill jobs", that no longer exist.

Resulting in more Welfare Cases, that those who are supporting themselves have to carry, resultting in even more Debt, Taxes, and Interest for the nrxt generation (your kids!) to be enslaved to.

You, and your children, can't afford to not cut up the credit card.
The rest of us will follow, for the same reasons, like it or not.

Hmmmmm.....CAPS LOCK.:hmmm:
I wonder how accurate this post is.

Errrr.....no:har::har::har::har:
errrrrr.....no:har::har::har::har:
errrrr......even without 1&2 being false that is still a no:har::har::har::har:

How can someone be so wrong?
Oh yeah ......White Power:rock:

There is some shocking stuff in there though, how comes the chicken factory wasn't closed down a decade ago when it was still using illegal immigrants?

USA is broken. Its politicians are broken. Many of its member of society are broken as well.


I actually kind of like Obama but the situation he is in atm is not a position of envy.


If you look at history what brings down great empires are mostly a combination of uncontrolled external power and the corruption of its own people in ethics, moral or otherwise. Chaos cannot prevail to rule. It will bring down the entire empire with it. Corrupt people are functional chaos at best. And functional chaos at best is a detrimental one at it, to lesser degree or otherwise. It is not the system it is always the people in it that's at fault.