I refer mostly to American heavies. Gunners every which way. I've yet to find a blindspot... top covered by top gunner 3 and 9 o'clock by waists... You only get one pass at the front, and I rarely even get this pass

But if you were to say, coordinate with another pilot on attacking from two angles from say the bottom then you'd make the gunner choose which would ultimately lead into a hit from someone wouldn't it?

That's how they did in in real life (or at least tried to...). Fly with a wingman. The gunner can only shoot at one of you. It's pretty difficult to coordinate that though because both fighters have to be in firing range at the same time and there are usually escorts around:dead:.

Noticed today, that I haven;t been playing on full realism, pretty much evertyhing except no map and or icons, unlimited ammo, and no wind or turbulence and or flutter effects.

So should I go for broke and start learning in full realism right away?? Because I turned on flutter effects and I gotta say that one sucks (Where the plane bounces everywhere without even shooting) I mean I could barely keep my plane under control without there well enough with it.

You know, just fly often enough with it on, and you'll start to not notice it at all :)

The formation flying of bombers is to both cover the ground adequately but moreover to provide all round defense, easier in a B-17 than most others during WWII.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3598/...f77eaacd_z.jpg

Here are the arcs of fire, extend those out to their effective range, then add in a second and third aircraft. You're buggered :doh: Your only hope is to catch them unaware, but once you've woken them up...

Well I've noticed that with real damage on that while fighting bomber formations I happen to have my engine go out. ALOT because of hits I take. I think it might be because the only good way for me to get any hits is to get behind them and come straight up on their tail and aim for their engines, making me a super easy target in the process :P

Also noticed that in quite a few planes pulling hard turns causes me to stall out and flip out of the turn , I am guessing because they aren't built for this turn radius?? Where as the zero I can yank back on the stick all the way at full speed and have no worries?