This is rather illustrative.
In a short time Yubba has gone from......
Aliens , Obama the Muslim, end of the world, secret intergalactic conspiracy, hidden planet thats going to eat the earth, Marine corps, America, reptilians run the governments with freemasons the truth is on youtube :woot:
to.....
Jesus Palin tea party Sarah jesus palin godless heathen burn in hell wearing Satin bible constitution revolution tea party America taxes union lefty lefty bad good god taxes palin my legs wet.:woot:

You can see that the sanity he had while he was drunk for 20 years was really far less insane than the new sanity now he has become "sober".

Looks like average politically engaged Muslim from ME-just little changes needed.
Wish the statistics was better tho.:DL

what can I say, I get around.:woot:But let's get it right, first it was Yellowstone Volcano, second was Norway Spiral. So Obama is a closest muslim, as long as he doesn't want to cut my head off, I'm alright with it, but he is worst {president ever}. And what were you sniffin I sure did not knowingly talked about a Secret intergalactic conspiracy or Aleins . If you want to talk about some body get your facts right, which I know it is hard too do in this world considering what is going on. As far as I'm conserned Right {Good}, Left{BAD} Must be hell grasping for staws on the free fall of defeat.

So when you posted links to loonys to back up your ideas about the end of the world and hidden planets you didn't know the links you provided for your claims were to complete loonys.

Four legs {good} two legs {baaaaaaaaaaa}
Political understanding of an ovine nature


:har::har::har::har::har::har::har::har:

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The discussion is getting a bit silly here. :hmmm: I'm betting there are more productive threads. :DL

To The Consitutionally Impared
 

:O::O::O::O::O::O::O::O::O::O::O::O::har::har::har ::har::har::har:My favorite Amendents 1 and 2, read it, learn it , live it. God Bless America. You might want check what the S@P, that's the Standards an Poor index has to say about the economy.

S&P? The same people that rated all those subprime mortgage securities as "Triple A" and helped blow up the economy? Yeah, I'll get right on that. They seem to have a wonderful track record.

Mark Twain:

Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only Religious Animal. He is the only animal that has the True Religion--several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbor as himself and cuts his throat if his theology isn't straight. He has made a graveyard of the globe in trying his honest best to smooth his brother's path to happiness and heaven....The higher animals have no religion. And we are told that they are going to be left out in the Hereafter. I wonder why? It seems questionable taste.
- "The Lowest Animal"


In religion and politics people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing.
- Autobiography of Mark Twain


And the ultimate word on the separation of church and state:

Luke 20:20-26 (King James Version)

20 And they watched him, and sent forth spies, which should feign themselves just men, that they might take hold of his words, that so they might deliver him unto the power and authority of the governor.
21 And they asked him, saying, Master, we know that thou sayest and teachest rightly, neither acceptest thou the person of any, but teachest the way of God truly:
22 Is it lawful for us to give tribute unto Caesar, or no?
23 But he perceived their craftiness, and said unto them, Why tempt ye me?
24 Shew me a penny. Whose image and superscription hath it? They answered and said, Caesar's.
25 And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's, and unto God the things which be God's.
26 And they could not take hold of his words before the people: and they marvelled at his answer, and held their peace.


BTW, I am not religious in any way in spite of of a strict, old-school Catholic school upbringing. i do, however, respect the beliefs of others. The once was an interview with Keith Richards where one of the other people in the room was Booby Keys, sax player and friend of Keith. Bobby at the time was a "born-again" Christian and kept interjecting "praise the Lord's" and other such slogans. Keith finally snapped at him and told him to knock it off. Bobby was a bit hurt and asked Keith "Don't you love the Lord?" Keith responded immediately with "I love the Lord, but I hate preachers." I find Keith's response to Bobby to be one to which I can subscribe. It is quite ridiculous to inject one screwed up, contentious set of philosophies (religions) into another screwed up, contentious set of philosophies (politics). It is rather akin to infecting an infection.

You might want to read the Constitution yourself, rather than assume it means what you think it means. The read the words of the people who wrote it. You'll be surprised.

THIS is the problem with a lot of discussions here about American economy imo.
Now I'm not American, and in no way do I mean to come across as arrogant. (Hell were not doing any better here) But all the discussions about American politics seem to end up with Republicans bashing Democrats or vice versa. EVERYTHING the other side does or says is wrong. And everything that's wrong is their fault.
Discussions start out being on topic but almost always end up in right vs left. Just an observation.

It's pretty straight forward, It says I can say anything, within reason, worship what I want, again within reason, and I can own a gun, way cool. There is some other cool stuff in there, to protect me from a tyranical government. When I join the United States Marine Corps I took an oath to protect the Consitution, from ALL ENIMES foreign and DOMESTIC, you can call me what you want but you'll never, ever be able to call me a TRAITOR. By the sounds of it Obama was trying to cook the books with the S and P explain that if you can. Enjoy your 4+ $ gasoline and what ever goes along with it. Here's the Lefts battle cry Tax the Rich:har: GAME OVER..........

And then the rhetoric begins and very little (of substance) is actually accomplished...

The alternative of course is to abandon this never-ending cycle and become an independent/moderate and embrace the best ideas from either side. Sadly this requires people to leave the ideology/dogma at the door, which seems to be nigh impossible for many.

A very accurate observation. In my opinion, as soon as anyone uses the term "left" "right" "liberal" "conservative" as the basis of their argument, they lose credibility.

Liberals (how ever you want to define that) are not all the same thinking people nor are Conservatives (how ever you want to define that) all the same thinking people.

But people, and many here on this forum like to reference THE liberals and THE conservatives as if they were some conglomerate group. Frankly, I have never met a person who is 100% liberal or 100% conservative on all matters.

One of these days, we might just start thinking of things as American Problems and come up with an American Solution. But I don't see that happening in my lifetime. :nope:

The problem I got with our government, is they didn't ask me if I wanted to live in a Socalist Rat Hole............or get my permission.:woot:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05dn8b_50so