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Tribesman 02-25-11 05:43 AM

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All this is pointless debate.
It isn't as it addresses two specific points raised by two people and adds a further point for possible debate.
So that would make it pointed not pointless.:yeah:

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Question is what happens if tomorrow Israel withdraw from west bank and recognize Palestinian State.
That isn't the question, actually that isn't even related to reality.


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Your plan is a perfect plan to weaken Israel even further by diplomatic means according to international law.
If you don't want law then stand up and claim Israel is a pariah state outside of the law.
That is where you get stuck isn't it MH , you want it both ways and on your terms only.
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The thing is that when we comply to it we are screwed when we don't its the same.
The only two relevant examples have worked out very well for Israel.

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You want to play Russian roulette do with your country.
:har::har::har::har::har::har::har::har:



BTW
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Settling west bank is not an issue for a long long time so stop weaving this crap.
Don't talk such absolute rubbish, that statement is pure bollocks and you know it.

MH 02-25-11 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1605920)



If you don't want law then stand up and claim Israel is a pariah state outside of the law.

International low -a new holly bible that is as long as it plays to your advantage.
International low is like democracy you need all parties to play the game.
Gaza blockade is wrong "cast lead" was wrong.
Haven't seen anything from you about validty of international law to Beer Sheva rocket bombing.





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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1605920)
That is where you get stuck isn't it MH , you want it both ways and on your terms only.
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My terms?
I just want to live peacfully in my coutry.


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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1605920)

The only two relevant examples have worked out very well for Israel.
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Revelent inough.





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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1605920)
Don't talk such absolute rubbish, that statement is pure bollocks and you know it.

No it not rubbish it simply good argument for you to hold on...
Israel withdrew from Sinai for Peace treaty with Egypt.
From parts of Jordan Vally -peace treaty with Jordan
From Gaza for ......

Tribesman 02-25-11 07:25 AM

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Haven't seen anything from you about validty of international law to Beer Sheva rocket bombing.
Have I tried to claim they are legal?

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No it not rubbish it simply good argument for you to hold on...
Israel withdrew from Sinai for Peace treaty with Egypt.
From parts of Jordan Vally -peace treaty with Jordan
From Gaza for ......
What on earth has that to do with your statement or my reply to that statement?

Though it does come back to the earlier one about relevance, two of those things are related and relevant, one isn't.
The related ones were beneficial, the third is just a red herring people throw up when their arguements fall apart.
So the objective is to take your red herring and make it actually relevant like the other two which means starting it all over again in a different manner.
Its quite funny really as starting the third one again and making it relevant will actually complete the other two as well since they are still not quite finished.

MH 02-25-11 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1605945)
.................................................. ........The related ones were beneficial, the third is just a red herring people throw up when their arguements fall apart.
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Thats what you say....or some people say.
You just could write that i lie as well.



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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1605945)
Its quite funny really as starting the third one again and making it relevant will actually complete the other two as well since they are still not quite finished.

Thats very optimistic..oversimplified classical thinking....
For now lets see how the first one will turn out.
All the Palestinian State thing blew up in Israelis faces after Oslo agreements.
Arafat got Nobel peace prize if you remember and it took long time to put terrorist activities under some sort of control as it is right know.
Israelis are now more carfull.
You know....i think its better for Palestinians in west bank as well because they enjoy relatively peacefully life compared to Gaza.
Alternative may be turning Rammala which has grown and developed a lot with foreign investments in last 10 years to next Gaza.
Peace process with Palestinians its not a matter of you are there we are here and lets live happily ever after.
You can google political roots of conflict and read about as much as you want.
It has not much to do with reality as it is right now.
You have to understand that todays Arab society has to change and Palestinian in particular.
West Bank just might be in the right direction but is still in fragile situation.

Blood_splat 02-25-11 09:31 AM

Intermission break.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIgZ7gMze7A

Tribesman 02-25-11 09:32 AM

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Thats what you say....or some people say.
You just could write that i lie as well.

I only write that you lie when you not only lie but are clearly doing it.
If you didn't feel the need to lie on occasion in these topics then I wouldn't have written that you were lying.

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Thats very optimistic..oversimplified classical thinking....
Nothing is that simple about it, however the basics are simple.

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For now lets see how the first one will turn out.
Do you think it will blow up with the changes?

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All the Palestinian State thing blew up in Israelis faces after Oslo agreements.
Agreements?
Almost all the proposals blew up in everyones faces due to intransigence on key issues from both bodies.

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You have to understand that todays Arab society has to change and Palestinian in particular.
But you also have to understand that todays Isreali society has to change and settlers in particular.

Schroeder 02-25-11 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1605431)
Oh, and I said it first. Schroeder was parroting me. :O:

Capitalistic propaganda!:nope:
I didn't parrot, I just copied.:stare:

MH 02-25-11 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1606026)
I only write that you lie when you not only lie but are clearly doing it.
If you didn't feel the need to lie on occasion in these topics then I wouldn't have written that you were lying.
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I dont lie - dont need to.


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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1606026)
Nothing is that simple about it, however the basics are simple.
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You cant start just with the basic.





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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1606026)
Agreements?
Almost all the proposals blew up in everyones faces due to intransigence on key issues from both bodies.

OK it did not work....



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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1606026)
But you also have to understand that todays Isreali society has to change and settlers in particular.

Settlers if it was THE ISSUE would be just great.
What electoral force settlers have ?
Actually they are totally pissed with now days and past governments.
They feel abandoned.

Its just this bla bla PA game for Palestians and that EU like to listen.

redsocialist 02-25-11 10:50 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBsCfZzZEe0

MH 02-25-11 10:54 AM

OK ok you are a Star a Red Star now STFU

Gerald 02-25-11 10:56 AM

Can't Touch Me,nothing wrong with the song, although I think it is a bit out of place..

redsocialist 02-25-11 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MH (Post 1606114)
OK ok you are a Star a Red Star now STFU

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/ranks/madam.jpg
Yes ma'am. Btw, that was my intermission video...
Not saying that about myself :nope:

Feuer Frei! 02-25-11 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by redsocialist (Post 1606108)

I don't get the relevance to the thread,
i must admit i am getting a little tired of this, if the OP can't keep relevance to the topic, then what is the point of posting it in the first place?

redsocialist 02-25-11 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Feuer Frei! (Post 1606119)
I don't get the relevance to the thread,
i must admit i am getting a little tired of this, if the OP can't keep relevance to the topic, then what is the point of posting it in the first place?

Lol, did you see my post? Its an intermission video again. I think thats a good idea, so everyone clams down and just realize its just an internet game forum, and not take things so seriously? idk :hmmm:

MH 02-25-11 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by redsocialist (Post 1606122)
Lol, did you see my post? Its an intermission video again. I think thats a good idea, so everyone clams down and just realize its just an internet game forum, and not take things so seriously? idk :hmmm:

We are all calm.
You just seem to be the buger on the loose.


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