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Arclight 08-29-11 09:24 AM

Well it's still good advice though. If the disc offers perks or is cheaper, why not go with that?


btw, anyone else figured out that you can capture the "admin" during a hack and get all the stuff from data stores without actually having to capture them? Not always possible, but often quite handy when you can. :know:

Spike88 08-29-11 09:26 AM

P.E.P.s is a single shot burst weapon, stuns everyone in the blast radius, great for groups.

As for the silencer, the second gun dealer sells it.

Spike88 08-29-11 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Arclight (Post 1738827)
Well it's still good advice though. If the disc offers perks or is cheaper, why not go with that?


btw, anyone else figured out that you can capture the "admin" during a hack and get all the stuff from data stores without actually having to capture them? Not always possible, but often quite handy when you can. :know:

Didnt know you got all the stores, but I did realize I could do it in Heng-sha.

Dowly 08-29-11 12:19 PM

Would've liked to have more interaction with the world around you, like you
can only carry certain objects instead of everything you see. Makes some of
the "puzzles" too easy this way, f.e. a corridor with mines in it.. hmm.. I should
probably use those conviently placed barrels here. :O:

Also, way too much hacking for my taste, what happened to lockpicking? :06:
DE1 saw the need for it and that takes place in 2052, HR's story is taking
place in 2027 (IIRC). One would think it'd be the other way around.

That's about all the things that bug me in it. Everything else is solid DE, looks
good, runs well, controls are easy, the augs are nice and varied and of course,
not just one way to do things.

9/10 from me. :yep:

Egan 08-29-11 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1738825)
Ah, I thought he meant as a disc not a download.

Nah, I'm cool with downloads. It's Steamworks I have a problem with. Nevermind, I'll save the thirty quid and use it to make my own Deus Ex game out of plasticine men. Squishy blue arms for augmentations, anyone?

Arclight 08-29-11 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1738921)
... , f.e. a corridor with mines in it.. hmm.. I should
probably use those conviently placed barrels here. :O:

Or, you know, grab them and sell them off. :lol:

Seriously, I've got so much credits I haven't got the fogiest what to spend them on. Not done with it yet, but I bet I'm not going to run out at any rate. Would actually have liked it if there was more need to really decide what and what not to buy.

Lockpicking... good idea, but they just replaced all the locks with electronic ones. Guess it boils down to the same thing, apart from not having lockpicking-related tools and augments. It's a bit artificial, but I like that there's so much to hack. Definetly keeps the explorers busy.

Dowly 08-29-11 03:07 PM

BTW, is it possible to kill "bosses" with non-lethal weapons? Stopped trying
after a few deaths against Barrett and whipped out the sniper rifle. :hmmm:

Oh and there's 2 credit chips in the room, in both alcoves, 700 & 800. :up:

Arclight 08-29-11 03:26 PM

Dunno, haven't tried. :hmmm:

Do know it doesn't matter though: killing them doesn't count towards getting through the game without kills.


Actually:
Quote:

Despite only using stuns, EMPs and tranqs on him, I was still treated to a cutscene of a man covered in bullet wounds and blood, gasping his last words as he died.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011...an-revolution/

That would be why I haven't even tried.

Dowly 08-29-11 03:31 PM

Yeah, figured it wouldn't matter. Just asking as I am mostly just carrying non-lethal
weapons with me.

Arclight 08-29-11 04:08 PM

Carrying a pistol specifically for these guys. And now a revolver... I'm just a sucker for exploding rounds.

Drewcifer 08-29-11 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JU_88 (Post 1738713)
Didn't like the tranq rifle, traded it in for credits so I buy some praxis.
Problem I'm having is that hostiles are usually in groups or pairs, so it is not possible to make non leathal attacks without raising the alarm. You either evade them completely or masacre them all.
E.g Detroit police station, I did not touch a soul, in contrast fir derelict row I killed everyone.
Agree there should be more non- lethal weapons, was is this 'peps' by the way?

Um The tranq is an instant man down with a head shot... not sure what else you expected out of it?

I don't partake on a single Op without my stun, my Tranq, and my peps... each one has a crucial role in the stealth/non-lethal build.

Groups of break up 90% of the time... if your going for a stealth non-lethal build you have to have patience simple as that. Now SOMETIMES the group can't be avoided... ie: having to storm a tiny apartment with two in the bedroom three in the living room. In that case Conccusion grenade, Take down, Stun Gun, Take Down. Wall for cover, Energy bar, Door opens two guys come out of bedroom, Take Down, Stun Gun.

Feel free to rinse and repeat..

Besides with the RPG elements of the game you can boost your problem areas quickly enough... if your having trouble with multiple hostiles... level up the multi takedowns.

seaniam81 08-30-11 01:18 AM

Did everybody get their Combat Rifle?

Arclight 08-30-11 06:34 AM

Ha? Found 2 in the apartment, sold 'm off. :lol:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Drewcifer (Post 1739188)
Groups of break up 90% of the time... if your going for a stealth non-lethal build you have to have patience simple as that. Now SOMETIMES the group can't be avoided... ie: having to storm a tiny apartment with two in the bedroom three in the living room. In that case Conccusion grenade, Take down, Stun Gun, Take Down. Wall for cover, Energy bar, Door opens two guys come out of bedroom, Take Down, Stun Gun.

Or just use a gas grenade, apartment cleared in 1 throw. I've never come across a situation that can't be either bypassed or solved with a dual-takedown/takedown+stun yet though. Never used the PEPS either, tranq rifle only past halfway point of the game. Purely single takedowns and stun-gunning before that.


Fully upgraded pistol is nuts, chops them bosses down to size rather quickly.

* oh right, mystery code bits went up last night: http://www.vg247.com/2011/08/30/deus...-coded-puzzle/

Dowly 08-30-11 08:08 AM

I've switched to takedowns & evasion completely (and a bit of cloak when
absolutely needed). Can't hit crap with the tranq rifle, gonna sell it the next
time I see a merchant. :hmmm:

mookiemookie 08-30-11 08:52 AM

To hell with the second boss (not the robots). I got so damn frustrated last night.

Boss fights in this game suck. I love everything else about it though.


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