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kiwi_2005 05-25-10 11:18 PM

I would say SH4 is better went back to SH4 and this time round actually enjoying it, although nothing SH3 can't do already but if i want to go try out the Atlantic in SH4 i can with Operation Monsoon, sick of that then go pacific sick of that then load up a Typhoon class nuclear sub, or cruise around in the Yamato or Montana wiping whole convoys in my path :DL Or maybe play out the soviet campaign, etc., There's far more options for me with SH4.

Reece 05-25-10 11:58 PM

The biggest gripe in SH4 to me was the U-boat buoyancy, the boat almost flies and in rough weather the crew appearing/disappearing is really annoying!!:x:doh:

tonschk 05-26-10 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jwilliams (Post 1399867)

.... SH5 will win this battle, i'm sure of it. :yep:

:salute:


This is UNSTOPPABLE , Silent Hunter 5 will win this battle :rock:


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JScones 05-26-10 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Faamecanic (Post 1402790)
Im feeling man-love for JS right now :haha: :yep:

Agree with all but your last statement.

The fact that FIVE years later (5 years?) a GWX modded SH3 can even hold a candle to a NEW SH5, given the devs had MONEY, TIME, and the source code (and STILL left bugs in SH5 that were in SH3!!!) says there is a serious problem.

You know, I thought this exact thing a few hours after I posted. You are spot on. :up:

All those saying that it is "unfair to compare" the two, are, in fact, correct. But not for the reasons they'd like to believe. It's unfair to compare not because the modders have had five years to tweak SH3 (while the devs lived in a vacuum, presumably), but because Ubisoft has had a) the source code, b) at least 80 fulltime staff working on SH5 (and as DanFans will have us believe, a standard day is at minimum 12 hours - no full-time employed modder could spend this time each day on the game long term) and c) all the learnings, bug reports and so on from modders and other players (combined with a, they had the chance to fix things modders couldn't). So yes, Ubisoft has had an unfair advantage. Did they exploit it...

Faamecanic 05-26-10 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones (Post 1403418)
Did they exploit it...


That answer is what we have in SH5..... :nope: :nope: disappointment.

Sailor Steve 05-26-10 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tonschk (Post 1403386)
This is UNSTOPABLE , Silent Hunter 5 will win this battle :rock:

I'm hoping it will. In fact I'm sure it will.


But not today.




On the other hand, while I'm waiting for my new graphics card to arrive I booted up Aces Of The Deep. After fourteen years this old classic is still fun! :sunny::D:rock:

Subnuts 05-26-10 09:41 AM

95 posts later, people who prefer SH5 to SH3 still can't think up a better reason than "because it's prettier!" Is U-571 a better movie than Das Boot because it has better special effects? Is Jane's Warship Recognition Guide better than Combat Fleets of the World because it's in color? :nope:

nemo7 05-26-10 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tonschk (Post 1402839)
The modders already are permanently and continuously abandoning SH3 in favor of :yeah: Silent Hunter 5

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I'm not quite sure about that; on the contrary, I believe that SH5 is, for now, abandoned... Have a look in SHIII Mods workshop mate.:yep:

kylania 05-26-10 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Subnuts (Post 1403631)
95 posts later, people who prefer SH5 to SH3 still can't think up a better reason than "because it's prettier!"

That's because they are busy playing the wonderfully modded SH5 game rather than trolling the forums of a game they don't even play, like the SH3 crowd is doing.

janh 05-26-10 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Subnuts (Post 1403631)
95 posts later, people who prefer SH5 to SH3 still can't think up a better reason than "because it's prettier!" Is U-571 a better movie than Das Boot because it has better special effects? Is Jane's Warship Recognition Guide better than Combat Fleets of the World because it's in color? :nope:

I assume you don't really want to hear the obvious answer.... But you are right on the mark. The times that I switched to a new game (and usually had to buy a new computer as well) for a new graphics engine are long over. I don't expect hyper-photorealism -- it is still a game. So it needs to have features and content that make it fun, maybe even teach me a thing or two about history, technics etc, and an AI that gives my brain something to agonize about.

For SHV, that still would be the wolfpacks, which were the last major detail missing in SHIII to really recreate a historical WW2 in the Atlantic. Other than that, I would rather invest my $$ into something new, other than "another very similar" submarine simulation.

TwistedFemur 05-26-10 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1399905)
I LOVE miller lite. My favorite beer. It IS less filling and tastes great. Gimme a frosty long neck!


Bud Ice Premium Lager:rock:

TwistedFemur 05-26-10 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tonschk (Post 1402839)
The modders already are permanently and continuously abandoning SH3 in favor of :yeah: Silent Hunter 5

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Can you support that statement with verifiable facts?:06:

Kapitanleutnant 05-26-10 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedFemur (Post 1403681)
Can you support that statement with verifiable facts?:06:

Of course he can't. tonschk's posts are like little squirts of **** dribbling down your monitor. It's best to ignore them.

I has a question - in SH5, do radar and sonar contacts still propgate through landmasses? I'm trying to figure out what measurable improvements have been made in the game engine since 2005, but am having difficulty finding any.

SteelViking 05-26-10 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kylania (Post 1403663)
That's because they are busy playing the wonderfully modded SH5 game rather than trolling the forums of a game they don't even play, like the SH3 crowd is doing.

:haha: Oh, the truth is funny sometimes.

If people would just give SH5 the chance they would see things differently. When I first got SH5, I was furious, in fact, I uninstalled it and shelved it for about a 2 weeks. So many things were broken, and WERE WORSE than SHIII or SHIV. But, guess what folks. The modders have been busting their butts. Plus, two patches have come out. And now, if you have the right mods, SH5 is awesome in my opinion, and not just how it looks. Seriously, get SH5, try these mods, actually play it for a while, and then see how much you want to cut it down. Otherwise, I wish people would stop talking negatively about something that they have no idea about.
Soup time:
AilBubbles 1.0 Micro
AilImpurity 1.2
Azs_Caustic_Mod
MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 Stock faces
Conus' Graphic Mod R7Comp
Window_Lights_Redone_V1
Wamphyri's Plane Mod
U-Boat Killer
Terrain_harbour_flags_Mod_v1_1
Nauticalwolf's Interior Mod V1.0
Old Style Explosions V1.1
sobers hatch mod
SteelVikingsAtlanticWaterv2
Enhanced FunelSmoke_by HanSolo78
Dooms Decks for VIIABC41 1.4
Capthelms Audio
NewUIs_TDC_2_5_0_Twisty_periscope_thingies
sobers multi color mod
BRF 1.3 lite
Sub_Exhaust_1_0_2_byTheDarkWraith
reaper7's Sky Mod
Environment MOD_2.1exp
sobers base wave mechanics for SH5 v3
Reaper7 HiRes Mod

Moeceefus 05-26-10 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Subnuts (Post 1403631)
95 posts later, people who prefer SH5 to SH3 still can't think up a better reason than "because it's prettier!" Is U-571 a better movie than Das Boot because it has better special effects? Is Jane's Warship Recognition Guide better than Combat Fleets of the World because it's in color? :nope:


whats a better reason one should play sh3 as opposed to sh5? is the game play really that dramatically different? honestly? im hoping those who have actually played both will answer.


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