:timeout: due to the fact that he freely admits copyrighted material was used in his mods, all of the links to them were removed until such time as he can rerelease the mods without this pirated content in them.

sorry for any trouble this causes you.

a decision somewhat radical since only textures rex clouds have been use.the rest of the mod (the best mod graphic moment) are works that are personal property. Ailantd was honest in giving his sources. Like what honesty does not always pay..:cry:

we have said over and over here at subsim we do not care what you do in your own home but do not talk about it. here he admitted it and made subsim an unwilling partner in copyright infringement.

what is so radical about banning someone who admitted to promoting stolen/pirated stuff that the copyright holder (REX) has contacted subsim and demanded it to be removed from our site?

radical would have been if he were to have had his account deleted, a week long ban isnt the end of the world even thou i admit it is a PITA as it is intended to be.

his mod links were in fact distributing pirated copyrighted content that the owner of said content does not want distributed by anyone other then those licensed to do so.

While in the brig, Ailantd has uploaded newer versions on his website (copyrighted material removed.) If anyone needs the link would it be ok to post now?

i dont understand the problem here...the material he took was not used for any commercial purpose from him. normally this is no problem. only if the material is used for commercial things you are in trouble.

:hmmm:

Why don't guys ripping sounds from movies and putting them into sound mods get banned too? Last I checked movies are copyrighted.

It boils down to this; though I agree I don't see any real harm- intended or done.
[edit] forgot link http://www.SHMods.ailantd.com

It's not "ok" to distribute something for free that somebody else is charging for. The clouds were from REX, which is a payware add-on for FS9/FSX. It'd be the same thing as somebody buying soemthing and then putting the files up on a DL site.

The people here who do not understand the problem with this boggle my mind. lol

:nope:

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problem is your comparison. it does not fit the overall problem of illegally distributed material. if you distribute material for free, which is a market product used from many people, so normally needs to be payed for...its a problem. cause you do harm to the original manufacturer, who can not sell as much any more - cause many people got this "product" already for free.

BUT

this only affects the normal market!!! modding is not a "market", right? so, if you use material for a hobby purpose, you do not harm anyone - quite the contrary if a community gets a benefit. this REX is very special, its not a thing like a movie, etc. - distributing a movie just for hobby purpose...fits your comparison. cause it harms the company, which benefit depends on the sale of the movies. movies are not a mod - and a mod is not a movie!!!

so please, do not mix things up and stop buggling your head, dude.

By the logic used to ban Ailantd, they should.

Are you serious? You honestly don't see an issue with taking software that somebody else is selling and giving it away for free? Wow. How you are able to not get it, also boggles my mind. lol My example works perfectly, you just do not understand it. In fact, it is EXACTLY what happened. Ailantd was giving away parts of a payware product for free. He was illegally distributing copyrighted material. The fact that he owned up to it, while commendable, does not change the facts.

Everything you said above has no bearing on this conversation. You are not allowed to illegally distribute somebody else's work. Period. Your comment:

...is completely nonsensical.

I will break it down:

Person A buys software. (legal)
Person A gives software away for free. (Illegal)
Person B downloads software without paying. (Illegal)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement
http://www.spa.org/index.php?option=...les&Itemid=344
http://infosat.tamu.edu/students/glossary.htm
You may want to start actually reading that little paragraph called the EULA when you are installing software. ;)

the images that were pirated are no longer being used and i have put his website link back into his first post for him.

- use of copyrighted material in mods

its normally its not an issue and companies usually dont object as long as you dont profit from it because big companies arent looking to pick on individuals. its just not worth it to them because they cant recover the cost of litigation with some poor individual that doesnt have any money.

in this case REX, the company who owns the copyright feels it needed to protect its product from being freely distributed and so they did object and asked for its removal so we did.

why would you pay REX to use there stuff if you can download Ail's mod and get it for free

@Webster

Please, remove ban from Ailantd. He's a really talented man, without modders like him the SH5 is doomed.

Besides that, he already removed any copyrighted stuff from his mods.

Indeed, we don't want to put the chap off. He's done some damned fine work in the past, and we want that to continue.