OSP will only die if it fails....

If pirates fail to crack OSP then its here to stay. unless this new DRM impacts sales.

Sure they may release a patch that allows you to play offline but thats only after SH5 is no longer selling (and simulation games seem to last awhile, due to lack of competion). they arnt going to release the patch if SH5 is selling well because then that just go's against the idea of OSP.

I didn't find the original post to be bizarre or out of line or like some Draconian edict demanding Scorched Earth and Death to Traitors. It could lead to some good discussion of what it means to support this community. We might realize that what holds this community together is thinner even than water. Some of the reaction, though, is downright hysterical. I especially like the references to "Nazis" and "Jihad" and "bullying." Good reactionary entertainment.

Finally, after dozens of replies to this thread, a one that can be considered as a good conclusion ...

The next week I will go to buy the :yeah: Silent Hunter 5 :up: Game to support the Subsim Community :rock:

1. I was not saying the game was too expensive, I meant that since we are paying for the thing, it is not like they are doing us a favor. We don't have to feel obligated to the franchise like we've been give some kind of generous gift. We don't owe them anything, it is a balanced transaction.
On a side note, I do actually think $60 is too much when I consider the value compared to games I want from AGEOD, Paradox or DCS.

2. Other games manage to meet my expectations, none of which are major blockbusters. I have enjoyed every single title from AGEOD and titles from Paradox, SES, HPS, MMG, OBD, Laminar, MicroProse, SSI etc etc etc have all met my uber desires/expectations. Some of those companies (HPS, SES) probably only sell a few thousand copies.
In fact, I would wager that all of those had a smaller budget than SHV. It is not that UBI didn't have enough money or wouldn't get enough sales, it is that they are heading in a different direction and are just not as dedicated as a specialized software company, one that produces only a certain genre.

3. The devs care, at least a little, this is clear from their previous work. The suits who OWN the franchise don't though. Like any good business people they are interested in making as much money for as long as possible. If that means following popular market trends at the expense of development time, original principles and the core community, so be it.

I think you are misunderstanding. The comparison was made that those who were buying this game were the same as Nazi supporters. That is not something that was made up in this thread by those objecting to the OP... it was an actual comparison made to stop people buying the game. People are objecting to that and quite rightly I think.

No, you were the one, in post #35, to mention "Nazi" first. The OP never said anything about Nazi, in fact, no one did until you did:

Go read the OP again. There isn't even the word "collaborate" in there. In fact, YOU said it first.

Jazman, a lot of stuff folks are fed up with are not specifically related to the text of the original poster. They're spread out in many other threads.

I didn't say the OP mentioned it. I didn't say it first. It does help though if you are familiar with this particular issue, it does tend to invade lots of different threads and the arguments are never seperate and distinct. The inference was made in this thread:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=162331

I would point out the post, but it would of benefit to you to read the whole thread, to see how quickly an innocent thread went south. This thread is, I believe, a direct result of that thread.

So, here we go, the comparison to Nazi collaborators was made as an attempt to disuade people from buying the game. The people who are complaining about it are not making it up. Thanks.

lol, well they can call me Nazi collaberating ubisoft fanboy poo poo face for all I care.
Im buying the game and if anyone here has a problem with that they can well.... piss off and mind there own business (to put it bluntly)

Well this is your point of view.

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I'll show you mine:

Let's say I play an average of 10 hours each week for the next 3 years with 2 weeks of vacation per year.


10 hours/week x 50 weeks/year x 3 years = 1500 hours

60$/1500 hours = 0.04$/hour.

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So approximately 0.04$ per hour, no big drama for me.

I'm not so inclined as to tell anyone wether or not to buy the product.

It is their decision.

I've made mine you make yours. Lets see where the chips fall.

I wrote in other topic that i'd rather pay modders for their version of SH than to Ubi.

:nope:

I just read this threat and my head is aching! :doh:

I personally agree with Uber's sentiments as one of the many without practical access to the Internet when I play games (basically one of the many that UBI decided to flip the bird at when designing their DRM). But this kind of post is bomb-throwing. Not cool in my book.

I think the decrease in sales will be self-evident without calling for a boycott or tossing names around.

If you own the software, then you can use all the means you want to play the game. From the moment you buy it, it's YOURS, ergo its not illegal to use my approach.

They won't change their policies just cos we dont want to connect to the internet, they know we are easier to fold.

If a tree falls in your path while you're driving, will you start a war to remove the tree from the road, or will you drive around it and keep going?

I will drive around it.

It's not my problem to solve.

Specially if the tree was put in my way on purpose.