As a matter of fact I still do. BTW you misunderstood me because I DO NOT hate eyecandy.

^ here is what I hate. Thanks BulSoldier I couldn't say it better myself!

I'm sorry, I have DLC on the brain so much plus the talk of DRM I was thinking we as disc owners would get a sub downloaded every week. I need to stop sniffing glue. :doh:

Eyecandy at the expense of gameplay is fine.

Just don't call it a "simulation." Cuz it ain't. :O:

Exactly my point.

Well all Im saying is its hard to have an opinion on something we know so little about. If you dont like something they've announced of course that your opinion, totally fine, but there's so many people saying they arent buying the game at all, saying the game sucks, that its not even a sim, and not only is the damn game not even out, but we havent even seen 1 review yet!

I never get like that with games because ive been surprised way too many times in my life. I could sit here all day and say that I think it sucks the game ends in '43, but I havent played the game yet, Im going to assume they made that decision for a good reason. Its their job to make good games, they know damn well bad games will not sell well, and they need this game to sell big time. Making a great game is their top priority.

The thing about all this is maybe the game isnt that great, maybe im wrong, which Ill be totally fine with. Ive got plenty of games to play, its not that big of a deal to me.

But one thing I wont do is form an opinion on something I know so little about. I need to see reviews first.

So until then ill just remain in the middle, causiously hopeful that it will be a good game, but if its not thats fine too, but I wont say its bad right now, thats crazy to me.

Again, I tend to agree and disagree.
1) most of the people who are leaning towards "not buying the game at all" do it for different reasons then "saying the game sucks". IMO most of them (myself included) are concerned about DRM.
2) you are right that the game might be perfectly OK ending in '43 and with only one sub. On the contrary I really enjoyed playing past '43 when every patrol became fight for bare survival instead shooting merchants like fish in bowl. Also, progressing between types of the subs gave me a sense of advancing which with only one type available just disspeared.
3) here is where I disagree with you the most: people who CREATE the game (devs) and people who MARKET IT (UBI) are two different groups of people. While the former might have our best at their hearts, the later just wants to MAKE MONEY.

What ever happened to taking it to a PM and quit stepping on the thread?

I'm sorry about that, maybe I got little bit carried away.
On the other hands I believe I have made some points for other members to react to.

Yeah I was just thinking that this got derailed fast, happens in every single topic now, all of them end up DRM arguments. Im sure this one will too at some point, it's annoying. It tends to happen when games get close to release, there's pandemonium everywhere.

Awesome! I love it when they think users are to dumb to even do a right click. :yeah:

Its not about DRM, its about all things that makes us lean towards negative (capsize if you ask me).
And for me atleast the site and all the info (as scarce as it is) is just adding up to the disapointment.

Very true. And when you try to have a thread dedicated to DRM it gets ruined as well.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=160994

:nope:

Hehe, well you should have known better on that one. Civilized and DRM? Come on...

:O:

Meh, One can hope.