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mookiemookie 09-07-09 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by maerean_m (Post 1167603)
At this moment, the poll says that 28% of you will wait 6 months to buy the game and pay almost nothing to Ubisoft for Silent Hunter 5.

Which Ubisoft deserves after the stunt it pulled with Silent Hunter 4.

The game will only barely pay for the development costs (if only) and if Ubisoft decides the make Silent Hunter 6, it will be of the same quality.

Just my 2 cents

For all of Ubi's talk about taking QA more seriously, it will be quite telling to see what kind of condition they allow you guys to release SH5 in. Let's hope they allow you the time you need to put a product out that you can be proud of.

tonschk 09-07-09 10:19 AM

at once

aanker 09-07-09 01:08 PM

Sh4MissionEditor.exe
 
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Originally Posted by aanker
I'll give Neal the money to support SUBSIM while I wait to purchase the pacific theatre SH5 US boat add-on!
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Originally Posted by Highbury (Post 1167668)
Why do people assume we will get a Pacific Add-on? With SH4 did we get an Atlantic add-on? no.. we got U-Boats in the game's theater.. PTO.

Following that trend would it not make more sense that a possible Fleet Boat add on for an Atlantic game would be for the up-til-now untouched Atlantic Fleet Boat ops.... makes much more sense to me.

With the Sh4MissionEditor.exe I can make my own shipping layers in the Atlantic & Med, place ports almost anywhere, and patrol (my US Fleet Boat) wherever I want. I'm pretty sure layers could be added for the SH4 U-Boats anywhere too.

When I saw the Gato on a world tour post and took my own world tour my eyes were opened to the almost limitless possibilities presented in SH4. The major cities are already there. With the Panama Canal mod and after adding some eye candy I can assume command of say, U.S.S. Gunnel (SS-253) at Groton, CT, sail East and into the Med, participate in operation Torch, then sail through the Panama Canal and into the Pacific to patrol out of Pearl. (for example)

Here's hoping that the SH5 will be that easy to work with. If I read that I can command a US Fleet boat and have a mission editor like this one, I'm in.

Happy Hunting!

Art

martes86 09-07-09 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maerean_m (Post 1167603)
At this moment, the poll says that 28% of you will wait 6 months to buy the game and pay almost nothing to Ubisoft for Silent Hunter 5.

Which Ubisoft deserves after the stunt it pulled with Silent Hunter 4.

The game will only barely pay for the development costs (if only) and if Ubisoft decides the make Silent Hunter 6, it will be of the same quality.

Just my 2 cents

Doom talk... that can't be good.

Carotio 09-07-09 05:52 PM

Some people choose to see the glas half empty and some choose to see the glas half full. IMHO the figures of the poll is not a total prediction of what will happen when the game is released or on the route to that date.
168 members have voted, out of how many subsim members?

Sofar we have seen a trailer video of the game and then not so much more but a few images. Nobody can make a qualified opinion upon that and will tend to base their opinion on past releases (SH3 and/or SH4).
Yes, some will never purchase it because it's ATO and some will wait, because of previous dissapointments. However, I doubt 28% of the potential customers will wait, probably more like 10-15%...

I say no need to look on the dark side. I'm sure the Nay percentage will be much lower the closer we get to the release date provided good official info is provided like more images, trailers and written info about content, requirements etc etc.

And that is my 2 ører... (2/100 dkk) :03:

Quote:

Originally Posted by maerean_m (Post 1167603)
At this moment, the poll says that 28% of you will wait 6 months to buy the game and pay almost nothing to Ubisoft for Silent Hunter 5.

Which Ubisoft deserves after the stunt it pulled with Silent Hunter 4.

The game will only barely pay for the development costs (if only) and if Ubisoft decides the make Silent Hunter 6, it will be of the same quality.

Just my 2 cents


JU_88 09-07-09 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maerean_m (Post 1167603)
At this moment, the poll says that 28% of you will wait 6 months to buy the game and pay almost nothing to Ubisoft for Silent Hunter 5.

Which Ubisoft deserves after the stunt it pulled with Silent Hunter 4.

The game will only barely pay for the development costs (if only) and if Ubisoft decides the make Silent Hunter 6, it will be of the same quality.

Just my 2 cents

Whats with all the doom and gloom?
on the bright side 74% voted they will buy it on release / pre order. its not that bad at all, anyway that is less than 200 votes in total (a pretty insignifficant number TBH)

I think what maerean_m is saying (and makes a fair point), is that if you/we neglect SH5 on its release, it only makes the situation worse for future titles in the franchise.... Bigger sales = bigger budget & development time, not exactly rocket science.

To quote Rage against the Machine....
"What You reap is what you sew!"

We have to ask our selves what is better: and incomplete game or no game at all?
if you like the SH franchise as a whole, then support it by buying SH5 around release, and if you dont like it, why are you even reading these forums? :06:

karamazovnew 09-08-09 07:37 AM

Plus, who's to say for sure that SH5 will be buggy? I'd like to see the people that voted Nay wait for 6 months drooling while we sink 1000 fleets in a perfect game. "Come on dude, buy it, it's great.... No... I voted Nay, I can't buy it for 4 more months, 3 days, 20 minutes and 5, no, 3 seconds. But I'm not impatient :doh: :damn:. I'm calm, really :woot::damn:".

But that won't happen ofc, they'll buy it just the same as us, only a few days later. But saying that a game such as this is too expensive at 60 euros and you can't afford it means you should check with a doctor :doh:. Most games now last less than one SH3 Patrol. Some last even less than a single successful convoy "attack and get the fudge out". If your PC can handle it, in terms of entertainment per buck payed, SH is the best deal you can have (:hmmm: although Guitar Hero 3 wasn't too far behind, for me :oops:).

AVGWarhawk 09-08-09 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maerean_m (Post 1167603)
At this moment, the poll says that 28% of you will wait 6 months to buy the game and pay almost nothing to Ubisoft for Silent Hunter 5.

Which Ubisoft deserves after the stunt it pulled with Silent Hunter 4.

The game will only barely pay for the development costs (if only) and if Ubisoft decides the make Silent Hunter 6, it will be of the same quality.

Just my 2 cents

I will buy two copies on day one. :03: BTW, everyone says it is selling for $50.00. It is not selling for $50.00. The game is selling for $49.99. :O:

Javelin 09-08-09 09:16 AM

I don't think I will purchase SH5. I'm tired of WW2 sub simulations. I wish they had opted for a modern day sub sim. A up to date remake of Red Strom Rising would have been a good choice.

Dowly 09-08-09 09:31 AM

Buy it on release, me thinks. :hmmm:

Jimbuna 09-08-09 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1168356)
I will buy two copies on day one. :03: BTW, everyone says it is selling for $50.00. It is not selling for $50.00. The game is selling for $49.99. :O:

The beta alone is worth more than that :o

Jimbuna 09-08-09 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1168361)
Buy it on release, me thinks. :hmmm:

ROFLMAO :rotfl:

Funniest thing I've read here for quite a while :DL

tater 09-08-09 04:51 PM

I'd pay $100, or whatever for the right PTO sim.

Me buying SH5 entirely depends on what units I can play. I'll happily sink u-boats but I have zero desire to roleplay being IN one.

karamazovnew 09-08-09 05:10 PM

Tater, I know your an American and Pacific Theater guru. I was the opposite when SH4 appeared. "WTF?! Play with the americans? No freakin way! I like japs, heck I'm watching animes right now! Shichinin no Samurai and Hotaru No Haka are my fav movies". But then I watched Run Silent Run Deep and suddenly I became interested in fleet boats.

So, just after the first reviews of SH5 come in and all of us stop posting because we can't stop playing, maybe you should watch Das Boot again and give the Jerries Tub VII a go :up:.

Rockin Robbins 09-08-09 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maerean_m (Post 1167603)
At this moment, the poll says that 28% of you will wait 6 months to buy the game and pay almost nothing to Ubisoft for Silent Hunter 5.

Which Ubisoft deserves after the stunt it pulled with Silent Hunter 4.

The game will only barely pay for the development costs (if only) and if Ubisoft decides the make Silent Hunter 6, it will be of the same quality.

Just my 2 cents

Holy Cow, sir. First of all, you're taking a poorly constructed poll, which only gives the two wildest extremes of behavior as possibilities. Then you're discounting the fact that a very small percentage of readers are even going to respond to the poll who will buy the game.

Finally you're ignoring the stampede behavior of the reluctant herd when the word gets out that SH5 is a fantastic game. If SH5 is a great game that 28% will vanish like an ice cube on a red hot griddle.

There's only one honest poll, and that's the honest poll of the marketplace, where people vote with their money. If SH5 is going to be a great sub simulator, the poll will take care of itself. If it is not, then the poll of the marketplace will be accurate feedback and the 28% might become 50% overnight. Either way, the poll above isn't worth the time to worry about.

I hope SH5 is fabulous and makes you devs rich.


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