You're both right.
Telling us about it was the first and last thing he did.
Oh, and it was the middle thing too.
And the thing just after the first thing.
And wasn't it also what he did just before the last thing?
But there was something else he did too... somewhere in there, somewhere between the first thing and the last thing I'm sure I do remember him doing something other than telling us about it...

PT, I've not tried what you're about to try (and probably never will) but I understand your need to escape, explore and discover. You need a fresh perspective!

So I hope you discover a place in the world that feels comfortable and right. I hope you find a way to channel your creativity - whether it be writing, or something else - and that your work rewards you and others.

And I hope you meet someone to share things with, as I believe there is nothing to make the soul happier than sharing good things with a soul-mate.

I'm lucky. I have these things, except maybe the place, but that's enough for me!

Good luck and good hunting! :up:

I have lived through much, and now I think I have found what is needed for happiness. A quiet secluded life in the country, with the possibility of being useful to people whom it is easy to do good, and who are not accustomed to have it done to them; then work which one hopes may be of some use; then rest, nature, books, music, love for one's neighbor - such is my idea of happiness.

Your threads are like those really bad pop songs they just never go away ….:lol:
Did you use to watch a program on the tv called the little house on the prairie or some such rubbish :hmm:

Sorry to hear your going Thommo. Loved your mods.
It is important you answer your inner call for more life experience. Do it now, you dont want an eternity of regret.

All the best on your travels.
And if you get to Scotland, try and get to Rob Roys grave in Balquhidder Kirk in Loch Lomond. On his gravestone : Despite them.

Just remember Thompson: you are part of society and society is part of you. Where ever you go you can never escape yourself so it is inner peace you should strive for. This is an internal process you can have anywhere!

However, it is a great idea to travel while you are young and it will give you experiences and memories for the rest of your live. You should make that journey, just try to leave those desperate (and adolescent romantic) emotions behind. Travel but don't run away.
Hopefully you will learn that all is relative and it is completely up to you how you define the world and yourself.

The world ending in chaos in 50 years is just a theory like many other theories.
One could also say mankind is going through puberty, we are making mistakes but in the end we need to make them to understand what is the right way to preserve the world and ourselves.

Best of luck to you and don't end up like that guy in "into the wild".

It's the very same thing I tried to explain him. But he always tries to protect himself by closing eyes on this and making fun of it just to avoid being figured out whats hidding beneath it. :shifty:

It's not like that. I'm much more open-minded then it looks.

Think like this. In 1920, the world had 1 billion people. Now, 2008, we are approaching 7 billion. Consider this outrageous increase in population in this short time. Now, don't forget, this is exponencial: the more people, more people. 2 rats give birth to 4 rats each, to it's 8 rats. But 8 rats giving birth to 4 rats each, that's 32.

In 2050 we will be surpassing 12 billion people, and I tell you what: this planet with 12 billion people is going to be hell. Unemployiment hitting records, hunger, misery, pollution. Most people will be living in garbage. And the temperatures? In 2050, both poles will be ice-free. The equatorial line will be a total desert, inhabitable, super-hot. The consequences? The natural disasters? Have you any idea?

All this is not fictional. It's not "just another theory" like you're saying. This is DATA! This is cientifically proof. If no actions will be taken and people continue to procriate like rats, all above is going to happen, and much more.

Most people (if not all) don't even believe that. I'm sorry, you'll judge me badly here talking like this, but it's just the way I believe: people crapping in their own plate, thinking that some divine providence will fortuitously save them from disaster, selfishly thinking that someone, some organization, the government maybe, should take care of it for them, after all they are all too busy taking care of their own nose, that there's no time to stop and think about it, help in any way. "Screw it", people think... "I'll not be here anymore when the planet starts to collapse, so why should I care?". Well, big news! It's going to be hell shortly, and you'll be here to pay the price.

Eintein was right... "There are two things that are infinite: the universe, and the infinite human stupidity... And I'm not sure about the universe."

I'm not having any kids of my own. Doing so, it's less people to make the world even worse. And I'm jumping in the wild, so I'm not producing 1% of the artificial garbage the rest of the people are doing. That's pretty much all I can do to help, as a single individual. But what f*cking difference does that do, if all the other 6,99 billion people are crapping around as much as they can?

Now, what do you do?

I'll tell what you'll do. You will forget all that you've just read, believing blindly that it's all fictional, believing that you're living in a solid environment that will sustain the good quality of life you have, 100% free, doesn't matter what you do. You'll keep on with your life, and little by little it will get worse and worse, but you'll not notice it, cos each passing day you'll get used to the fact that the world is crappy just like it is, and has been since you borned. You have your television and your internet to distract you, as you ill. Flawless.

But wonder... how better was the world when you were a kid? Exponenciate this same amount of time to the future, worsening, and you might get a clue.

Now you think I'm too concearned about it and I should kick back and relax, like all the other people you see on your television. And the only reason you think that way is because you see no one except me worring about it. So the majority wins, and I'm wrong.

Blind nation guided by the media.

Don't get me wrong, I do respect your choice and I do agree with most you are saying about this world. In an way, I wish I still had your outlook on life as I used to have, it's more simple and everything is categorized.

Quote: "This is cientifically proof".
Mind you: conclusions made from scientific data are always reflecting the expected outcome of the scientist interpreting the data. No scientific "fact" can be considered equal to truth...

But, I have traveled, I have been on the fringes of society AND I have tried to find my role in "normal" society.

Some say; "lead by example".
I think modern society / mankind / earth only have a chance to NOT end in chaos when more people like YOU try to play a responsible role IN society. YOU could actually be someone who helps change "fate" by showing others how to lead their life.

Again, your visions are right, do your travels and gain even more wisdom.
But...all in due time.

Enjoy the walk of life :know:

Alright, that's a valid point, but not a very strong one IMO. I agree that people are generally happier when they have more personal space and there are more resources to go around, but I don't see that either of those are going to be in short supply anytime soon. I live in London (one of the most overcrowded places on the planet) and although I'd like more personal space, I can't say that the lack of it is ruining my life. As for resources, well, most developed countries throw away vast quantities of food every day, and I can't see water ever being much of a problem on a global scale. That just leaves air which, admittedly, has less oxygen and more CO2 every year, but again it's a far cry from "unbreathable". My lungs are screwed (20 cigs a day for 13 years) and I live in a polluted city, but I'm not gasping for breath yet.

But all of that really is beside the point. If you look for what's bad and wrong in the world then you will find it easily. And if you want to believe that things are getting worse then you will find evidence to support that too. You'll find whatever you're looking for.

You say the population has boomed in the last century. True. Also, mankind has set up a global communication network which allows people from all over the world to pass information amongst themselves in seconds. He's setup education systems which have just about everyone on the planet being able to read and write from an early age. He's had (and, importantly, documented in a format that anyone can understand) what will hopefully be the last large-scale conflict of humanity. He's walked on the moon. You seem sad that we're not all zen buddhists already, but you forget that a century ago most of us wouldn't have even known what it was or how to spell it.

Oh and by the way, there are periodic plagues/deseases/viruses which come along once in a while and wipe out large portions of the population. The world is a lot smaller now, metaphorically speaking, so the next time such a virus hits us it'll likely spread worldwide in to time. In case that makes you feel any better. :hmm:

I could go on and on but you get the picture.

This is starting to read like something Theodore Kaczynski would have written.
:hmm:

Wikipedia to the rescue!
Oh, wait, technology is pulling us apart from each other.
Let me redo my answer.


Theodore Kaczynski? Never heard of him. Now get get the hell out of my personal space already. There's too many people around me, that's why I spend so much time talking to them on the internet, you know - to get away from all the people!

@Thomsen

A writer call Tertullian once said: "We are burdensome to the world, the resources are scarcely adequate for us... Truly, pestilence and hunger and war and flood must be considered as a remedy for nations, like a pruning of the human race becoming excessive in numbers."

That was in AD 200.

:lol: Are you done already ?
Think of where this discussion will end ? Everyone will stay up to their own minds believing their own built true.
Moderators should think again on locking this thread on limited period of time due to christmas and no hard talks about this nonsence. Please ? :)