August, why do you take these snipes at SkyBird if you know that he can't hear you?

Oh he reads my posts often enough, but if you want to make sure he will just quote me. He can't reply unless you do.

This thread is funny in a morbid kind of way. Here we have a typical Euro posting as to the delight of the news that the USA "may not be the dominant power in 20 years". Without thinking this through, or applying any analytical ability to determine whether or not this is a good or bad thing, the OP proceeds to take the same used up opinions (the Chalmers Johnson doomsday type) to apply it as a "prophecy" of his own making. How stupid can this person be??? Honestly, I've lost total faith in the average European to determine what dynamics are good for the world. They have cheered on Obama, probably because Obama will do things which reduce America's economic and military power without even thinkking what impacts may come to Europe as a result and our alliances. Europe is drowning in an exploding Muslim population, and has Russia becoming ever more aggressive to their East. The Euro's have an energy imbalance and without US support.....no leverage at all. Yet, the Euro's cannot even see that they may come to hate what an Obama administration could mean to their own security. While Russia moves missiles Westward, Obama is talking about American disarmament. The Iranians are continuing the Shahab 3 program and their nuclear (civilian???) program and Obama wants to "talk without pre-conditions". China continues it's ballistic missile growth in the Far East, Obama is on the path to dismantle the sea based BMD programs. And the list goes on...... Without thinking consequences, the Euros have been cheering on potential dangers in their own midst. I take this report with a total grain of salt though because like TDK1044 says in an earlier post, America's strength lies in it's ability to change dynamically. A very insightful statement.

What I'm very interested in is knowing who the OP would feel would be a greater alternative to America as "dominant power". China and their gross human rights abuses? Russia with their totalitarian and chaotic mindset? Who?

muppets

Like I said, I've lost total faith in the ability of the average European to determine what dynamics are good for the world. Your lame answer only solidifies my opinion of this further.

ha ha ha good one yeh. Read my post number 51 in this thread and you'll realise what i was talking about u arrogant twat:nope:

Besides what the hell has this to do with Obama????

We all love the French. Fakt.

Na..

OK. I thought you were just being a hostile smart-a@@. Sorry about that. :oops: Anyway, I still feel sorry for the people of Europe who still do have some common sense over there, and can think beyond the first dimension of their wishes. The fact that Europe so heavily favored Mr. Obama, in the face of so many potential threats, shows me that many people over there simply don't have the ability to propagate consequences, and may not be able to understand how it could be a big negative to their future security. The OP clearly has his head buried in the sand over the issue of the USA losing influence and power. And it inspires a vote of no confidence from me. Whether or not the USA loses the dominant position in 20 years remains to be seen. And whether it's good or not, for both us and you is simply not being thought out. People like the OP in euroland are simply driven by a narrow irrational contempt.

And the USA losing the dominant position or not has everything to do with who's leading it, and who we elect in the Congress..

Ever seen the movie 'Cabaret'? You'll find that song in it.

The arrogance of a couple of the German posters here is only matched by their ignorance of a Country that they really know nothing about.

America has changed and continues to change at a greater rate than any other Country in the world. The election Of Barack Obama is just one sign of the changes that are to come.

Germany's political rigidity is their real problem, not US foreign policy. If the German people had the courage to make real political changes within their own country, then maybe there would be less ignorance towards other countries....primarily the USA. But if the members here are an example of the average German voter, then they are doomed to continue to take the easy road and blame others for their lot in life.

Now the reality part instead of Skybirds twisted version. If you truly read the actual reports, you would have seen that it isn't at all the decline of the USA. It is actually the rise of China. So what you will have is another SuperPower cold war. I I remember correctly from the report, their is a third country that is also named, but China sticks in my head. Anyway, the report says the US will remain as powerful as it is, just that it will have rivals.

But as always, the media likes to twist things.

Now the bad part - China is mentioned that they will conflict in war with America over dwindling resources. So guess? Look forward to a future full of conflict.

Europe - good luck. You guys get to play a back seat to all this, and your standard of living will be pretty much non-existant.

But for the religious of you, you would already know this because the bible mentions the troublesome asian armies in the end of time, so it shouldn't come as a surprise.

Oh, I forgot to mention the last part of the report - mass starvation. Welcome to the 21st Century! :up:

-S

And i apologise for calling u an arrogant tw@, two wrongs don't make a right which is what i was trying to argue against. Guess the beer has gotten the better of me, it is Friday night after all. Good night people, don't let the world get you down it could be worse.

I also believe in the end we will destroy ourselves. Possible fallout is coming closer. When? I don't know. My only regret is bringing my daughter into this pathetic world. I try so hard to give her the best. Even knowing that there is so much crap all over the place. So much hatred so much ignorance so much immaturity. :nope:

We're suppose to be a civilized right? I don't think so. We are far from that.

We're suppose to be normal right? Who can define what is normal anymore? We allow our leaders or elites to kill us off slowly loosing jobs, houses, food and values.

We're doomed because we don't learn. We've been repeating this over and over for a long time. Different reasons different names but in the end the same outcome.

How many of us are going to die till we realizes our errors and make a change to secure a people as a whole? Not by colour or language or country.

I suggest you guys do this...

Take a moment sit back and relax. Really look at what is going on outside your window. Really look around. You don't have to see far to see the $H!T flying around you. Who's responsible for our predicament? Who's benefiting from our suffering?
Who is laughing to the banks?

Maybe you all should direct your anger and frustrations at those who are responsible for destroying us one by one.

As long as they divide and concur us we will loose and obey.

So how long do you think before we loose our sanity and someone presses the red button...? :/\\x:

yea! why are you suddenly trusting the CIA's data!?! They never make mistakes.

Ha! Speaking of doomsday, I just watched a show about the Cuban missle Crisis. The scenario all sounds too familiar again.