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Obama has no interest in & nor will he bring the United States into Socialism...it will never happen.

Remember, he only says what you want to hear and half of it is what you don't want to hear.

These are the worst runners for president ive ever seen.:huh: Makes me want to move somewhere else.:huh:

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Originally Posted by Task Force

These are the worst runners for president ive ever seen.:huh: Makes me want to move somewhere else.:huh:

Better still, why not ask the two candidates to move elsewhere? That seems a more just choice. ;)

These two are not the two worst presidents the US could deal with by a fair margin.

What is worse in these elections is the mud thrown at each other and the polarisation taking place, the "either or" stance, and the appeareant intolerance to the other partie's stances not by common sense and reason anymore, but by mere principle. Switch of the brain, go by party politics.

If either McCain or Obama would have been put up only 10 years ago, both would have
gained massive and positive reactions from either side.

What has become that worrysome in the US are not the presidents, but an in large parts uneducated population that is manipulated and driven by medieval times style party rethorics more akin to dogmatic mobs then 21th century democracies.
It's not a about politics anymore, it's about what underwear a president wears to answer the question if he is fit for office. :damn:

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Originally Posted by baggygreen

I can't see youtube clips at work..

for some reason i have a mental pic of BHO singing the aids song in the scene from team america.

Is that too far off?

Many places firewall YouTube at work. That is probably what is happening. I don't think I can watch YouTube either at work, though I don't have time to try.

-S

Yeh the problem is that its actually blocked in some way shape or form. that, and any url containing "game"

thats from the movie "team america world police" - i love that flick and i thought the clip was pretty funny in a sick sort of way.

sure its tasteless... but I also have a very sick sense of humor.

the same sense of humor that causes me to say stuff like...

Wife: "How did you sleep last night?"

Me: "Like a dead baby, you?"

sorry... i know... but thats just how it is. :-?

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

now thats humor:rotfl:

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

thats from the movie "team america world police" - i love that flick and i thought the clip was pretty funny in a sick sort of way.

My Wife and I sing it to each other on a regular basis, that and "I'm so lonley";):D And you thought you were werid!:roll:

I'm so ronery.

Haha.

I love that movie.

Obama’s tax plan and the redistribution of wealth

Wonderful.

-S

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Want to set a conservative’s hair on fire? Just mention redistribution of wealth and watch the fireworks. It happened Sunday when Barack Obama was canvassing a neighborhood in Toledo, Ohio.

Fox News cameras were there and captured the conversation (which is now all over the Web) between a self-employed plumber named Joe Wurzelbacher and Obama.

More taxes?
Wurzelbacher explained that by working hard (10-12 hours a day) he was in a position to buy a business. If he bought a truck and expanded the business, he wondered if his success would be greeted by a penalty in the form of higher taxes.
“Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?” Wurzlebacher asked.

“It’s not that I want to punish your success,” Obama explained. “I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success too. My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody … I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”

The common good
Spread the wealth around. That can mean many things. It could mean a rising tide lifts all boats. But it could also mean government taking from one group of people (the people who earned it) and giving it to those who did not.

This is what Obama detractors are saying his tax plan is all about. And many are wondering why the McCain campaign isn’t being more vocal about this. They contend Obama’s policy proposals are damning enough. Forget Bill Ayers, they say, go after his policy.

The Journal
In the context of the Democratic nominee’s conversation with the plumber (video below), many blogs are linking to a Wall Street Journal column yesterday that charges that Obama’s tax plan isn’t what it sounds. They say it’s a big gimmick:

One of Barack Obama’s most potent campaign claims is that he’ll cut taxes for no less than 95% of “working families.” He’s even promising to cut taxes enough that the government’s tax share of GDP will be no more than 18.2% — which is lower than it is today.

It’s a clever pitch, because it lets him pose as a middle-class tax cutter while disguising that he’s also proposing one of the largest tax increases ever on the other 5%. But how does he conjure this miracle, especially since more than a third of all Americans already pay no income taxes at all? There are several sleights of hand, but the most creative is to redefine the meaning of “tax cut.”

For the Obama Democrats, a tax cut is no longer letting you keep more of what you earn. In their lexicon, a tax cut includes tens of billions of dollars in government handouts that are disguised by the phrase “tax credit.” Mr. Obama is proposing to create or expand no fewer than seven such credits for individuals.

No preconditions
Not surprisingly, the McCain campaign agrees with that assessment in a sarcastically toned statement:
“If Barack Obama’s goal as President is to ’spread the wealth around,’ perhaps his unconditional meetings with Hugo Chavez, Raul Castro, and Kim Jong-Il aren’t so crazy — if nothing else they can advise an Obama administration on economic policy,” a McCain spokesman told Fox News.

Agreed
Investors Business Daily calls Obama’s tax proposals straight up “socialism.”

John McCain is reportedly considering a broad, simple capital gains tax cut. An across-the-board cut would be a real middle-class rescue, focused on generating new private sector employment — the proven way of “spreading the wealth around,” a concept which Obama, with his deftly disguised socialism, cannot grasp.

Blogosphere erupts
They aren’t the only ones calling it socialism. The conservative blogosphere regards the Fox video as manna from heaven. This is something they say empirically shows Obama is in favor of redistribution of wealth.

There’s the blunt and simplistic approach from McNorman’s weblog: “Obama is a socialist. I have said it before.”
Michelle Malkin doesn’t have a lot to say about it, but we’re assuming that she isn’t a fan of the Obama tax proposal, which she denigrates.

Over at the American Sentinel this is the view:

Welcome to Barack Obama’s new America, it’s called redistribution of wealth and his tax cuts for 95% of America is nothing more than Government welfare for people that don’t pay taxes at all. Haven’t we already been down this path ? This was done in the 70’s and the Democrats are bent on bringing it back. Only can today’s “progressive” see fit to cater to the ”parasite class” and bury the American worker further. Mission almost accomplished.

RightPundits.com goes right to the author of The Communist Manifesto:

Ahhhh - income redistribution. Take from those that have and give it to those who don’t. Make sure everyone has an equal piece of the pie. In the words of Karl Marx, ‘From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.’

One of our readers commenting on another story writes:

Obama has stated today that ‘he wants to spread the wealth around’. At least now he is honest about his redistribution of wealth ideology.

“The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.” - Winston Churchill

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As for the traditional media, there’s not a lot out there. But Obama’s comments — far from JFK’s “a rising tide lifts all boats” statement — have started a buzz in blogland. Whether it catches on and McCain latches on to it, we’ll have to wait. There’s not a lot of time left.

http://features.csmonitor.com/politi...ion-of-wealth/

Fantastic. :rock: :rock: All the Obama threads which have swamped the GT forum have been consolidated into one big "Slam Obama" topic. Thank goodness for that. :yep:

Yeah, and I'll try to do the same for the McCain threads.

There are just a few guys spamming the boards with this stuff. That's fine, but since it is so similar in tone, content, and intent, they can simply post them as replies in these threads.

Excellent. Much better solution than a seperate politics/religion.... section. :yep:

I'm sure that once the election is over things will return to normal. At least I hope. :-?