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Stealth Hunter 06-17-08 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DeepIron
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Not really. If he's so well documented, why is his childhood completely omitted from the Bible?
Because history, or narrative if you wish, was not written the same as we see today. A persons "entire biography" was not a relevant thing to the Hebrews. It was common practice to write about the significant things a person did, not what kind of cloth was used in his/her diaper or what his/her favorite smashed fruit was...

That would be a style developed by "modern" biographers and TMZ...

Yeah, but it's the son of God... come on. This is supposed to be the most important man in history and yet there's not any full documentation on his childhood...?:roll:;)

Anywho, I sent them the mail yesterday but haven't gotten any reply yet.

clive bradbury 06-17-08 11:32 AM

Not a historian are you subman? The only evidence accepted for the existence of a person by historians is contemporary. There is NO contemporary evidence of the existence of Jesus, and a host of contemporary evidence for the existence of Julius Caesar.

Some examples:

He wrote a classic piece of military history for a start, commissioned many buildings, instituted laws (which he signed), had contemporary coins struck in his image. Many people who knew him wrote about him.

All this is accepted evidence for the existence of a person. You are merely repeating a very tired argument put forward by many religious people before you, and it has long since been refuted. It is about as dated as the 'irreducible complexity' argument against evolution, I'm afraid.

By the way, non-believers (not all atheist, though), make up the third largest 'religious' group on the planet - some 16% of humanity - not 5%. Though why religious beliefs should influence the content of the History Channel anyway escapes me. I'm an atheist, but would watch a documentary about a religion (as long as it was historical facts about that religion rather than a polemic in favour of the particualar belief). Religion is a significant social and cultural phenomenon, and therefore as worthy of historical study as anything else. Equally, I am pretty sure most religious believers swould soon get sick of purely religious programming, too, and would wish to see a wide range of historical subjects on the channel.

DeepIron 06-17-08 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter
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Originally Posted by DeepIron
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Not really. If he's so well documented, why is his childhood completely omitted from the Bible?
Because history, or narrative if you wish, was not written the same as we see today. A persons "entire biography" was not a relevant thing to the Hebrews. It was common practice to write about the significant things a person did, not what kind of cloth was used in his/her diaper or what his/her favorite smashed fruit was...

That would be a style developed by "modern" biographers and TMZ...

Yeah, but it's the son of God... come on. This is supposed to be the most important man in history and yet there's not any full documentation on his childhood...?:roll:;)

Well, we could debate/discuss this, in a friendly, constructive way of course, but it will lead back to an "argument of faith" I think.. ;)

Anyway, good luck with your letter. I feel pretty much the way you do, the History Channel has certainly "changed" over the last few years and I seldom watch it anymore. Even when I can find the time to watch the "boob tube" at all...

Fish 06-17-08 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Actually, since history and general knowledge is on my side, why don't you get me 'disproving' information? I took history, and any professor would chew you up about now.

-S

So, then proof it, must be easy though?
The burden of proof is on your site.

Fish 06-17-08 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
[ Let me guess, you fall into the same catagory that thinks we never made it to the moon.

-S

Cheap shot.

Ducimus 06-17-08 07:16 PM

History channel is indeed sucking these days. When i flip through the guide and see an evening full of ice road truckers and axe men. WTF is that all about? I LIKED shows like Mail call, and that other one where this guy would look at ancient weaponry. Where'd they go? History channel i think should be renamed to "The Dude's channel". Its all just guy stuff, no problem with that, except its supposed to be the HISTORY channel.


Most of the crap i like to watch, is now on the military channel, which shows a whole lot of reruns. Most of the time, the same episode of some show, 4 times a day. Kind of a disappointment.

Platapus 06-17-08 07:17 PM

<munching on popcorn>

Anyone want any?

August 06-17-08 07:25 PM

There was this one series with a Brit father and son team who would showcase all the old English battlefields, forget the name of it, but i thought it was a great show.

The one they did about the Roman defeat of Queen Bodiccea's army in the oddly named "Battle of Watling street" was my favorite.

Stealth Hunter 06-18-08 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus
<munching on popcorn>

Anyone want any?

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g1...mj_popcorn.gif


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