No waterboarding?

I was not trying to steal a US Invention.
Where in my original post did I claim otherwise?

Correct the Manhatten project was a US project. However other countries had an input which contributed to its success. Don't believe me do some research. Not just read wikipedia, which does incidently credit the UK, Canada and displaced German scientists amongst others as being part of the Manhatten project.

If you quoted my entire post you would see I was trying to correct wastegate's error in stating that the US owned the UK's nuclear weapons.

Getting back on topic.....

Had a thought about waste gate's original question. Whilst I stand by my earlier comment "stop beging so insecure" I have another thought.

I would agree that around the world the US is pretty unpopular these days.
But then so has every "superpower" that has preceded it.
IMHO one of the few historical constants is the rise and fall of empires. And when your on top you have to accept that not many people are going to like you, especially if you like throwing your weight around. Was the UK popular when it had an empire? Were people happy being raped and pillaged by Gengis Khan's crew? How many nations were big on being conquered by the Romans?
As they say in America..... "It goes with the territory".
Don't worry at some point, as with all superpowers the US will fall and then it will be somebody else's turn.

I'm intrigued as to where you got that list mate, to my knowledge the sewing machine was German and the light bulb English, although I haven't checked these recently :D

Perhaps it's just the Scottish engineer in me being a pedant, everyone knows the Scots invented everything ;)

I think he's right with the lightbulb.
Thomas Eddison, USA

You're probably right, the Englishman I remember is Humphry Davy, credited with electric light, but not putting it in a glass bulb.

My apologies for doubting, and also for straying further off topic :oops:

Sewing Machines a bit more complicated.

http://inventors.about.com/od/sstart...ng_machine.htm

This artical claims a German registered the first patent, but the French built the first working model just beating the US by 4 years.

It's hardly surprising that the US is way ahead on inventors, particularly in the 'golden age' of such things, as most of them would have been immigrants or descendants of recent immigrants, within two or three generations. Most people of that ilk have the necessary drive to get off their asses and seek a better life, or had parents who instilled such values in them. With that kind of personality, it seems obvious that they would be 'problem solvers', especially with the US being seen as 'the land of opportunity'.

:D Chock

Eddison made the first practical lightbulb, not the first lightbulb.
Warren de la Rue, an Englishman, was the first to enclose a coil in a vacum tube so effectively being the first lightbulb.

:o :oops:
1820 long before Eddison.
I stand corrected.

I'm going to have to start checking Stealth Hunters list.
I'm certain he is right about the Nautilus though:up:

If you look through the science books, you don't ever hear the name "Warren de la Rue".

In short, he may have, but Edision is still going to be remembered for it.

[quote=Stealth Hunter]The aeroplane was not invented in America!

They just built the first one and then decided to spell it incorrectly.

If I invent a engine that runs on beer, but if Jo Spanners builds the first one; I still invented it and gave it to the world!


Of course, you could say that implementation of the idea was invented in America, but
again this is wrong as both English and German glider builder had written about, and thus
invented, the idea of fixing a combustion motor onto a deformable aerofoil beforehand.


In short:
Invention is the forming of original ideas.

Neither the concept of the aeroplane, nor any single aspect of it's practical
implementation
was an original idea when the first aeroplane was built.

Thus, the construction of the first aeroplane and the invention of the first aeroplane where
two separate events.

America no more "gave the world" the aeroplane, than Jo Spanners gave the world the
beer engine that I invented.



Please note: I have not invented a beer engine, however I have invented the concept of a beer engine.


*edit*
I just made this post as a little joke to amuse my self. I dont seriously belive any of it, but all the same, I'm suprised how much sense it made!

Stealth Hunters list...

- The airplane 1903 USA
- The lightbulb 1820 UK
- The telephone 1876 USA/Scotland ish (Bell was born in Scotland and became a US citizen in 1874)
- The telegraph 1844 USA
- The machine gun 1881 USA
- The coffee pot 1822 France
- The sewing machine 1830 France
- The revolver 1835 USA
- The repeating rifle 1860 USA
- The burglar alarm ? ? No way is breeding dogs an American invention:rotfl:
- The hearing aid 1898 USA
- The camera 1837 France
- Frozen food 1886 USA
- The first nuclear submarine 1954 USA
- The laser 1959 USA
- The calculator 1885 USA
- The internet 1969 USA

Pretty good. IMHO he got most of them right.
Anyone disagree?

Yes, the list is more or less right, although a few are ambiguous, if not subjective.
It is totally academic and not a good way to measure a country's inventiveness.

The Internet depends on your definition of "Internet". There are several definitions,
each with different inventors.

Just to be pedantic....

The hearing aid should be amended to "the electronic hearing aid".

The calculator has definition problems and the lines from manual, mechanical and
electronical are blurred.

Frozen food is a ancient invention, it is only different methods of freezing that have been invented since.

The camera depends on definition.

The laser is hard to pin down a date for. America 1960 might be better than 1959 or perhaps 1939. The first laser that could stay on for longer than a quick pulse was made by an Iranian interestingly.


America certainly gave up the repeating rifle, machine gun and revolver......
Nice one America....;)
http://www.bri-sparks.co.uk/users/ww...ppy_medium.gif

Haha it's that type of arrogance which causes people to think little of Yanks. - hahah 'world series'

Personally I feel the same need to bash the USA as any other country that isn't Australia, let's face it, compared to us you're just second best.

:p