Solar scientists predict that, by 2020, the sun will be starting into its weakest Schwabe solar cycle of the past two centuries, likely leading to unusually cool conditions on Earth. Beginning to plan for adaptation to such a cool period, one which may continue well beyond one 11-year cycle, as did the Little Ice Age, should be a priority for governments. It is global cooling, not warming, that is the major climate threat to the world, especially Canada. As a country at the northern limit to agriculture in the world, it would take very little cooling to destroy much of our food crops, while a warming would only require that we adopt farming techniques practiced to the south of us.


http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/f...4068db11f4&p=4

Canada? Colder? Will we notice the difference?

Old news already but believe it or not.......................... :nope:

I was watching a similar piece about the Little Ice Age which hit Northern Europe from like 1350 to 1850.

It was like the change in the temperature in the Indian Ocean affecting Africa.

I guess it was warm during the Middle Ages for a long time. This caused icepacks to melt in the artic. This decreased the salinity in the water. This stopped the northern current which brings warm water from the tropics up to Iceland on the surface of the water, drops of its heat, then sinks as it becomes more dense and heads south back to the tropics. The decreasing salinity stopped this northern flow of warm water, and dropped the average temperature by 3 to 4 degrees.

http://www.agu.org/revgeophys/mayews01/node5.html

http://earth.usc.edu/geol150/evoluti...ttleIceAge.htm

http://www.grisda.org/origins/10051.htm

May Average Temperatures were higher than ever
 

The temperature this summer in the USA are going to be higher than normal.

You must take the yearly temperatures of all the spots on the globe and average them all together to see the effects of global warming.

Waste Gate you don't fool anyone with your narrow picture of this issue. Sorry but you remind of of the three blind men and the elephant.

You see April's temp as the trunk of the tree not an Elephant. That's just WRONG!

All I have to do is look at the Corn crops in my area and see how they have been wilted from the high temperature and lack of moisture.

Go back to 1930 and look at the DUST Bowl events at that time.

If the April temperature were cooler than the ice caps would be freezing back up not melting as they continue to do at a rapid pace.

Your arguements don't hold any water mate. One look at the polar regions, iceland glacier and all the other glacial ice that's left is all it takes to convice any one with some brains that the earth is warming up fast.

Y'know that's what they say but so far it's been a very cool June up around these parts. Still this is New England. The only place I know that can have a heat wave and a blizzard in the same day.

Temperatures are extremly high here during spring (March, April, May, June till now), but next week will be to cold. :hmm:

For example:
March 9,5°C (normal : 5,9°)
April 11.9 C (normal : 8.7 C)
May 15.8 C (normal: 12.8 C)
This are average temps.

The little ice age was started by a huge volcanic eruption that sent thousands of tons of ash into the upper atmosphere which lingered up there for several years. Unlike CO2 the Ash blocks out the sunlight and prevents the earth from heating up. CO2 gas on the other hand allows the sunlight to enter the earth's atmosphere but not readiate back out into space thus warming the earth.

Nobody knows what the heck the sun does or how it really works. NO probe have ever gone to the sun and surviced long enough to learn much about the sun. All we can do is look at the sunlight though instruments and try go guess what it's going to do.

But we speculate that someday the sun will explode or collapse. I think it will just burn out . Remember that matter can't be destroyed or made only changed in form. The sun is most likely just one big hydrgen explosion.

"Mini Ice Age" May Be Coming Soon, Sea Study Warns
 

This arcticle is is from Nov. 2005 and its saying another LIA maybe on the way.
No money to be made on cooling I guess; so warming it is!!

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...0_ice_age.html

My favorite cartoon on the subject so far!!!!

http://newsbusters.org/static/2007/0...balWarming.gif

I knew that! :know: I saw the movie! :yep:

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9110/scrat3uh9.jpg

http://stephenschneider.stanford.edu/Publications/PDF_Papers/DamonLaut2004.pdf


http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/dn11462

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Some light reading.

• Science, not politics
• Statistics needed
• The original denier: into the cold
• End the chill
• They call this a consensus?
• The limits of predictability
• Unsettled science
• The ice-core man
• The hurricane expert who stood up to UN junk science
• Polar scientists on thin ice
• The sun moves climate change
• Bright sun, warm Earth. Coincidence?
• Look to Mars for the truth on global warming
• Read the sunspots
• Forget warming - beware the new ice age
• Little Ice Age is still with us
• Fighting climate 'fluff'

I was watching a thing on The Little Iceage and it was really scarry. Is the melting of the polar icecap desalinating the North Atlantic and sending us towards another one?

It's kind of fun going through these and finding the sources.

Example, Solomon, in the Consensus article, quotes the Oregon Institutes Survey of "17,800 scientists". Check what really happened here
Solomon is not checking his sources, but if it fits the conclusion...

Also, it's nice to see that a shrinking of a small southern region of Mars can be construed as "global warming". We've been over Mars many times, even on this thread. The title of the Mars piece is "Look to Mars for the truth on global warming". I couldn't agree more :roll:

Send a few degrees over to Northern England mate :D