@Dowly and BBW

Your wasting your time guys.......a leech is always a.....leech :yep:

But herrrr kaleeeeuuunn!! I still have loads of torps and provisions left!! :rotfl:

my five cents to carotio and this issue.....

have been said at the beginning of this whole issue and in the german ubi forum....

unaceptable!

I agree to Kpt Lehman´s recommendations!! :rock:

Cool, now we are a political party... says the guy who just fell off of the banana boat.

Off with their heads.

Very well, while I am polishing my hobnailed jack-boots and practicing my "I've Elected Myself as Emperor of SH3" speech... (In that 'stentorian' voice that Sailor Steve said I have.)

... maybe this thread can come back to its basic purpose... to determine a reasonable set of "rules" and then decide on community-based consequences for breaking the same.

Otherwise, the free-for-all furball will happen again and again ad nauseum.

Precisely. I have the same experience with NorOps. It costs so little to ask, and every time I've asked someone for permission I've gotten a yes.

Everything you make is automatically copyrighted. No need to register anything anywhere.

As for Das Boot content in GWX, I believe Fair Use laws covers the taking of a few minutes of audio out of a six hours long movie.

In short, this is a black-and-white approach, as every user has different reasons to give or not give.

For example, if you make a Norwegian Coastal Defense warship, it's in your interest to share it with someone modifying campaign layers in order for your ship to see in-game action.

On the other hand, when I was asked if I wanted to contribute my NorOps addition of cities, towns, etc. to this guy who has been working on filling the whole SH III world with cities, towns, etc... I said no. Reason being that I want NorOps to be as unique as possible, and that it feels better to me to have all my NorOps work in one place, namely in one big mod.

To you it may be a joke, as you apparently couldn't care less about respecting other designers' work. For the rest of us, however, it is a very important thread and should result in a sticky with community-wide guidelines for what is and isn't fair game when it comes to using others' projects.

I like the Kaptain's suggestion about works 'entering the public domain' after a period of inactivity, although I think 90 days is much too short.

Agreed, the time frame is certainly negotiable.

Ahh, i think im starting to see now. Havent read the entire thread, as most of it is the usual flame war ping pong, but Something happened. I dont know what it is but i suspect it has to do with some Sh3 to Sh4 ship mod conversion. Didnt really look at it or into it, only noticed it in passing.


So.. something happend there, that got KL all fired up. So now, much like the "church of silent hunter 4", there seems to be this holy crusade taking place as a backlash.

Im not going to play along. Theres only one real major ethic that ive abide by, and theres only one major ethic that i will continue to abide by.

NO PLAGURISM.

The rest of it is a whole lot of "pork". Now, i know KL is used to getting his way and bending people to his will, but im saying right out now, whatever comes out of this thread, i dont care. Im not changing myself just to accomidate one or two peoples agenda. Sorry, dont mean to be an ass, but when i feel others are trying to impose their will upon me, im as stubborn as a mule, with the temper of a badger.

It was the news that Cartorio was going to combine GWX and WAC and call it his own suppermod.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :o my supporters:lol: :D :rotfl: :rotfl:

This is to sad....

I finally found my sleepers!:rotfl:

Is this guy for real?

Concerning the person you refer to... that was handled respectfully in private... and an agreement was reached. He was a new guy... and he was not raked over the coals. You are the one trying to make it a public issue and twist it to meet your wishes.

What I look for here is a common set of basic rules that will apply to everyone... designed to protect and recognize modders who submit original works.

I don't understand why you or anyone else would have a problem with that.

Having a "screw everybody" attitude isn't helpful.

Having rules prevents this sort of crap... by providing a clarity that has never been present here before.

[quote=Ducimus]
We know you 're not an Ass mate,
but I know Kpt.L for quite some time now and never in my all
course within the Gw and GWx I was bended to his will or ever saw him try
to force on any of us his thoughts or ideas...

I know you have a past issue with him but I think that is certanly not a nice thing
to say here just to throw more wood into the fier...

I have a great respect for you but I'm preaty sure I will loose it with atitudes like this mate...
I never saw the Kpt.L talking about you that way, you should be more Gentleman
and give the change in the same respectfull way bro..

:hmm:

Im sorry guys, but all i see in this thread now is two things:

Agenda and backlash.

Because:

If this is the case, then why and repremand the rest of the community for it? One person does somethign bad, and now the rest of us have to hit a **** sandwich?

Cause it looks almost natural this days that someone uses others work without crediting or giving a Damn mate...

I don-t even like the idea of My work in GWX beeing used by Carotio,
as I didn't liked to see work that I never released that was not released
when we were building the GWX and all of a sudent I see work of mine
posted for download on some sites And discoverd that was posted by Mr. Donuts:)


:nope: I didn't liked it, and the idea of seeing my stuff used on the Carotios
Mods just makes me sick...

However I have no problem with you for example using some of my work if you do...

cause we know you, and we know what you are, and the respect is mutual...:hmm:

In part I have moved my stuff to my forum cause of this kind of guys...
And I love SSim...:shifty: :yep:

If someone gives you a free red Corvette, and you decide to have it repainted blue, the original owner has no say about it. This does not imply that EVERY freely given Corvette must be painted blue as well, nor should they have to stay red as initially given. Those in possesion of a Corvette must decide for themselves what color it should be.:yep: