The key code is only for online play.

Did SH III actually ask for the cd-code? I can't recall. I do remember that the code was placed on the DVD itself of all places..

Placing the code on the booklet like they did this time is much smarter for sure

yes it did , when u first attempted to run the game, it was part of the starforce copy protection scyeme

So SHIV dosn't use HDR lighting? Some of the graphics do look very HDRish but I guess it could be something else. Do you have a thingy that sese it only uses PS 2.0?

At one time. I had 14 games installed that all needed the disk.

Since then, I don't buy games until there is a nodisk crack for it.

It is unreasonable, and borderline unethical, to expect me to put that much wear-and-tear on my computer and disks for a massively over-hyped 'piracy' problem (the vast majority of those who use pirated or 'borrowed' copies weren't going to buy a copy anyway--that's just common sense).

If this game isn't successfully cracked (or the disk requirement isn't officially removed like it was for OFP), I won't buy it. That's the developer's loss, not mine.

Really? My bad. But why would I get banned from an open forum for mentioning you-know? Esp when about 10 posts before me did also?

I didn't think it was supposed to be a state secret that I don't load my discs in my disc drive every time I play a game. That would SUCK, since they are all stored in the next room with my work stuff. And who cares, since I do not share or download them anyway. Woooo, look out! He left the dvd in its case! There's going to be a tragedy! LOL :rotfl:

I hadn't thought to look for a nocd for 2142 until after the last post, but glad I did because now I can use the drive for music and other things and not have it running all the time when I play... at least until the nextversion of 2142 is released.

So don't go thinking I support people ripping off the game. Ubi needs to make some money so they keep the devs patching and hopefully future versions of the game coming out. But for my own purposes, yes, I look forward to not having to run back and forth in here swapping discs every time I change games. For that matter, I look forward to not having ONE program conflict with all my OTHER programs which I've gone to great lengths to set up as a centralized system for the house with instant access (for movies and music) at any outlet. Spent quite a bit of time and money on that home-made system. For now I have to play SH4 on my old FX-53 rig with the X850xt video because of the conflict. And while it "runs", I imagine it is nothing like it could achieve on my C2D with 4g ram and x1900x card.... :roll:

Actually it's a double loss:

1)their profit
2)your gaming pleasure

And that's that. The crack conversation always snowballs into bad things. It's best left undiscussed.

there isnt any gaming pleasure for him if he cant game the way he wants to

It's common for games to support more than one shader model. There is no technical reason SH4 cannot support both SM2.0 and SM3.0/HDR right now.

You are not in a position to know that for sure.

MookieMoo - I revised my wording to make it more clear. I do not mention any of the things you listed: piracy, warez, (what IS abandonware? never heard of it), PtP swaps, etc etc. None of that was mentioned at all. Hopefully my rewording clarifies it AND my position, since I have enjoyed this forum since SH3. For my part, I'll just clamp the 'ol trap after this since it would only prompt further discussion on the discussion of taboo topics.... which is kinda funny. :yep:

I would rather not pay the devs to waste time on being aholes to people that arent going to buy the game anyway, the accelerated dev scheduale doesnt allow time for this, and Im disgusted that they wasted my money.

With UBi consistantly releasing buggy and incomplete games and then walking away from the product before its acceptable (sh3), they have lost me as a customer.

This is the last Ubi game I will buy, I dont like them making me feel like this and Im not going to put up with it.

and before you say gbye dont let the door hit you...I have paid about $400 to get this game, and I dont want to waste the time to return it so, you will just have to put up with me.

for me the no cd crack isnt a big deal, although I would like to run it for convinience, I dont buy enough games anymore to be worried about it, this is the straw that broke the camels back as far as PC gaming goes for me, on principal.
I will still game on the PC if the game and company making it does a good job, but with so many game companies *protecting* themselves, I have doubts.
Im not taking part in your stupid war, just for the sake of having a war your not wining anyway.

Sad to lose a hobby to corporate Aholes who arent even going to make aditional money for thier actions and money spent. I will have to tolerate the controls of a console from the looks, and missout on simulations. A price Im willing to pay so I dont pay the price.

Boo Ubi (definatly)..and Im very disapointed in the devs...

Piracy..... yeah it's the bain of all our lives, leads to baaaaad protection tools etc. Remember the starwars debacle? Now I'm not gonna defend the buggers but when UBI don't even have the decency to reply to 2 emails now regarding the NON delivery of my super deluxe version 4 days after it shipped :/\\!! , need I go further?

Fubar

Tell us how you realy feel. :roll:

Well what can I say .. I rebooted my pc and didn't start Process Explorer and lo and behold, the game works. Imo, Securom is going the Starforce route these days .. I just hope they're gonna stop pissing off paying customers with this garbage soon and begin to realize that games get pirated no matter WHAT you do .. and tbh, if someone buys a game and it does not work, and someone else downloads the same game and it does work for him, there is something fundamentally wrong.