That's horrible. I'm glad I bought both of those games for the 360 instead of the PC. I didn't know that.

No FSAA in SHIV, according to our french friends, but it can be forced in the driver panel.

Respenus: :rotfl:I`ll get by. Actually no AA is great for videomaking, since the fps-loss is less, and one cant really see that it is not on due to compression. But for screenies its a must!

Yeah this really stings. Could be worse though. Yes you can force AA through your vid card settings, but it's never nearly as good as native AA. It tends to just make things look blurry. Rather than being natural AA, it softens the pixels around the edges and just make it look a little blurry.

I think he said he "thinks" it can be forced in the control panel, but didn't remember.

If I can force it through the driver control panel then I am totally fine with that. SH3 didn't have native FSAA support either. In fact, most of the games I play I force FSAA through the driver control panel even if it is available through an in-game menu....not sure why. lol

You made a wise decision, bro.

Some people seem to really like Vegas on the PC, while others seem to really like Vegas on the 360. I am in the 360 crowd on that one. The 360 version just looks flat out better and runs a LOT smoother.

I remember when I bought Vegas for the PC after buying the 360 version (I liked the 360 version so much I wanted to get the PC version as well). I remember saying "WTF IS THIS?!" when I started playing it on the PC. Mind you, I think the gameplay is the exact same, but the graphics and performance are quite a bit below that of the 360.

Ahh well. Live and learn. :)

PC games are still not up to the level of the 360. You can build a very expensive PC for 3-5k that could handle 360 graphics, but until games are developed for DX10 on the PC, they can't compete with the 360.

I'm sure to run SH4 with everything cranked we're going to need to make some healthy upgrades. The 360 can handle that without breaking a sweat.

I mentioned earlier I think this is a big reason why AA was not included. I dont think computers even 1-2 years old can handle all the graphical upgrades they made AND AA. It's too much.

I talked to a few developer buddies, and they all said the same thing. "It's the HDR they are using that is making FSAA a pain."

I just hope I can turn off that silly looking HDR (personal taste). I'd fall over backwards if they decided they didn't want to include an FSAA option in favor of this "glowing" graphics effect. lol


*EDIT* I'm ranting again. lol

Top end pc`s have just as nice graphics as the 360, but they are expensive. The problem with the 360 and all other consoles is that the games for them generally are very bad. Vegas is a terrible game IMO, and that they used the Rainbow 6 name on it is an insult.

I tried the Project Gotham thingy for instance, and the Nordschleife looked so insanely good. The car on the other hand, behaved like a Mario Cart. So its fun for two minutes.

Yay, hurray for console bashing :up:

I 2nd that! Consoles are the Anti-Christ of gaming!

Don't pay attention to Boris. He's a console closet junkie. ;)

I think console games have there purpose just as PC Games do. My problem is when a company has to make 1 game that will run on both. The PC version always loses because it's easier to simplify a games controls then it is to enhance them.

When it comes to this XBOX 360 vs PC pair-up, we can thank M$ for the simplified PC games. One of the requirements to allow the "Games for Windows" slogan to be used on a PC box is that the game developer must allow the use of XBOX 360 controls in the game.

Also, thanks to M$, don't expect any Graphic Card battles anymore:cry: . M$ has spoken and has stated that ALL PC Graphic Card manufacturers will have to conform to 1 standard so that they are all on the same page so that M$ can control which feature will be produced and used in VI$TA.


THANKS BILL:stare:

If you're primarily a PC game, then console games take some time to get used to. Naturally using a keyboard and mouse is far superior to any gamepad. But there are plenty of great games on the consoles, and what you get which you dont get in the PC world is stability and guaranteed performance.

With something like SH4, here we are having to deal with losing an important thing like anti-aliasing because of other improvements they made and their fear of it all not running well on anything but a 3k computer.

So they both have their trade-offs. I love both. I dont really love one over the other. I thought R6V and Project Gotham Racing were awesome games on the 360. I also have a bunch of PC games I love just as much. But honestly the console world is less stressful for me and much cheaper. I'm getting ready to make 2.5k worth of upgrades to my machine to handle SH4. I'm not upgrading just for that, but for the future, but that's painful to spend that much money on a computer.

That's about what I spent last week for my new build.

The original guy said he thinks FSAA can be applied through the driver settings, but he couldn't remember for sure. :(

I know for sure you can force AA through your vid card, but it's not as good as native AA. It tends to blur the pixels and give everything an overall slightly blurry look.