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Rockstar 10-21-24 04:51 PM

First thing Biden did was waive Trumps sanctions against Russia’s and Germany’s Nord Stream 2 project. Until he was forced by congress to reinstate those sanctions.

I reckon Putin saw weakness in Biden and his administration likening it to a rudderless ship and decided he could get away with invading Ukraine.

https://i.ibb.co/G3LY61P/IMG-0904.jpg

August 10-21-24 05:01 PM

They've started calling Kamalas lies about working at McDonalds "Stolen McValor"! :haha:

mapuc 10-22-24 07:22 AM

Musk's stunt could be illegal

Quote:

But not everyone is thrilled with the billionaire's generosity. Pennsylvania's Democratic governor, Josh Shapiro, is not a fan, and in a program on NBC, he calls on the police to investigate the stunt.
https://ekstrabladet-dk.translate.go..._x_tr_pto=wapp

Markus

August 10-22-24 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2930140)
Musk's stunt could be illegal



https://ekstrabladet-dk.translate.go..._x_tr_pto=wapp

Markus




The Dems are trying to conduct lawfare again. Signing a petition is not voting or registering to vote.

mapuc 10-22-24 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August (Post 2930158)
The Dems are trying to conduct lawfare again. Signing a petition is not voting or registering to vote.

No signing a petition is not illegal-What should be illegal is giving a voter money for putting their vote on a certain politician/candidate.

Markus

August 10-22-24 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2930160)
No signing a petition is not illegal-What should be illegal is giving a voter money for putting their vote on a certain politician/candidate.

Markus


It is but that is not what Musk is doing.

Catfish 10-22-24 12:18 PM

^ Maybe not to "everyone", but The Musk lottery.
"[...] with the daily distribution of millions, the billionaire hopes that it will result in Trump returning to the White House. [...]"

"Each day leading up to the election, the Tesla owner will give $1 million to a random Trump supporter
who has signed his online statement, which supports free speech and the right to bear arms, among other things."


"The statement also offers $100 to any registered voter in Pennsylvania who signs, as well as an additional $100 for referring a registered voter in the state to sign."

Rockstar 10-22-24 12:34 PM

Election Exclusive: British Advisors to Kamala Harris Hope to "Kill Musk's Twitter"

England, not Russia, is the culprit in a real foreign election interference story, as the leaked Stateside plans of an advisory group with close ties to [that fascist twat] Prime Minister Keir Starmer show.

[emphasis mine]

The British are coming, to meddle in our elections!

In an explosive leak with ramifications for the upcoming U.S. presidential election, internal documents from the Center for Countering Digital Hate—whose founder is British political operative Morgan McSweeney, now advising the Kamala Harris campaign—show the group plans in writing to “kill Musk’s Twitter” while strengthening ties with the Biden/Harris administration and Democrats like Senator Amy Klobuchar, who has introduced multiple bills to regulate online “misinformation.”

Senator Klobuchar’s office did not respond to request for comment.

Entire article:https://disinformationchronicle.subs...itish-advisors

August 10-22-24 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2930180)
^ Maybe not to "everyone", but The Musk lottery.
"[...] with the daily distribution of millions, the billionaire hopes that it will result in Trump returning to the White House. [...]"

"Each day leading up to the election, the Tesla owner will give $1 million to a random Trump supporter
who has signed his online statement, which supports free speech and the right to bear arms, among other things."


"The statement also offers $100 to any registered voter in Pennsylvania who signs, as well as an additional $100 for referring a registered voter in the state to sign."




And again it is not paying anyone to register or to vote in a certain way.

Catfish 10-23-24 04:29 PM

^ Not directly, but I think this action of Musk is tendentious, to say at least.
But you say that this is not a problem and maybe it isn't – ok.

Another question: i have read this electoral college thing up and down and I understand how it works. But how did this came to be, and why do you think that this system is superior to direct voting, where the real number of votes is used to elect the president.
I mean where is the advantage, or why would a direct democratic vote be worse, or inferior?

Dargo 10-23-24 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2930360)
Another question: i have read this electoral college thing up and down and I understand how it works. But how did this came to be, and why do you think that this system is superior to direct voting, where the real number of votes is used to elect the president.
I mean where is the advantage, or why would a direct democratic vote be worse, or inferior?

Direct democracy was not what the framers of the United States Constitution envisioned for the nation. They saw a danger in tyranny of the majority. As a result, they advocated a representative democracy in the form of a constitutional republic over a direct democracy. The pure form of direct democracy exists only in the Swiss cantons of Appenzell Innerrhoden and Glarus. The Swiss Confederation is a semi-direct democracy (representative democracy with strong instruments of direct democracy). Despite being a monarchy, direct democracy is considered to be an engrained element of Liechtensteiner politics. If called for by at least 1,000 citizens, a referendum on any law can be initiated. Referendums can suspend parliament or change the constitution, but at least 1,500 citizens must vote affirmative, so referendums to suspend parliament or change the constitution fail if they have low turnout even if the required percentage of total voters is met.

Dargo 10-23-24 05:14 PM

American creating deep fakes targeting Harris works with Russian intel, documents show
A former deputy Palm Beach County sheriff who fled to Moscow and became one of the Kremlin’s most prolific propagandists is working directly with Russian military intelligence to pump out deepfakes and circulate misinformation that targets Vice President Kamala Harris’s campaign, according to Russian documents obtained by a European intelligence service and reviewed by The Washington Post. The documents show that John Mark Dougan, who also served in the U.S. Marines and has long claimed to be working independently of the Russian government, was provided funding by an officer from the GRU, the country’s military intelligence service. Some of the payments were made after fake news sites he created began to have difficulty accessing Western artificial intelligence systems this spring and he needed an AI generator — a tool that can be prompted to create text, photos and video.

Dougan’s liaison at the GRU is a senior figure in Russian military intelligence working under the cover name Yury Khoroshevsky, the documents show. The officer’s real name is Yury Khoroshenky, though he is only referred to as Khoroshevsky in the documents, and he serves in the GRU’s Unit 29155, which oversees sabotage, political interference operations and cyberwarfare targeting the West, according to two European security officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence. The more than 150 documents — which were shared with The Post to demonstrate the extent of Russian interference through Dougan and focus mostly on the period between March 2021 and August 2024 — for the first time expose some of the inner workings of a network that researchers and intelligence officials say has become the most potent source of fake news emanating from Russia and targeting American voters over the past year... https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...mation-harris/

Gorpet 10-23-24 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee (Post 2929967)
The fact the election is close shows that America is lost. Trump was clearly never fit to be President in the first place. I guess GOP controlled state governments gutting education is giving dividends at the ballot box. And, of course, a dedicated propaganda network doesn't hurt.


Make no mistake: Trump only cares about himself, not you.

Oh damn, I take it you are a Leon Trotsky,Follower and gutting education is giving dividends at the ballot box to the Democrats. And, of course, a dedicated propaganda network of MSM is good for the party. And of course history has shown.The leaders of socialist and communist parties,live as minimalist as they want their citizens to live and believe. While they live as the elite above and use the capitalist system to get rich. And they don't have Democrats or Republicans. So my question to you is What does America do now ?

Rockstar 10-23-24 07:28 PM

https://youtu.be/ZxwAXamka38

Gorpet 10-23-24 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dargo (Post 2930364)
American creating deep fakes targeting Harris works with Russian intel, documents show
A former deputy Palm Beach County sheriff who fled to Moscow and became one of the Kremlin’s most prolific propagandists is working directly with Russian military intelligence to pump out deepfakes and circulate misinformation that targets Vice President Kamala Harris’s campaign, according to Russian documents obtained by a European intelligence service and reviewed by The Washington Post. The documents show that John Mark Dougan, who also served in the U.S. Marines and has long claimed to be working independently of the Russian government, was provided funding by an officer from the GRU, the country’s military intelligence service. Some of the payments were made after fake news sites he created began to have difficulty accessing Western artificial intelligence systems this spring and he needed an AI generator — a tool that can be prompted to create text, photos and video.

Dougan’s liaison at the GRU is a senior figure in Russian military intelligence working under the cover name Yury Khoroshevsky, the documents show. The officer’s real name is Yury Khoroshenky, though he is only referred to as Khoroshevsky in the documents, and he serves in the GRU’s Unit 29155, which oversees sabotage, political interference operations and cyberwarfare targeting the West, according to two European security officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence. The more than 150 documents — which were shared with The Post to demonstrate the extent of Russian interference through Dougan and focus mostly on the period between March 2021 and August 2024 — for the first time expose some of the inner workings of a network that researchers and intelligence officials say has become the most potent source of fake news emanating from Russia and targeting American voters over the past year... https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...mation-harris/

You haven't answered my last Question. Dawg


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