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Ivan Putski 02-20-08 12:16 AM

Are you using manual targeting in the realism settings, it has to be checked to inable it. Welcome aboard albe1979. Puts:up:

Pisces 02-20-08 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by albe1979
:hmm: Sorry guys, Why I cannot pull down the silver instrument 4 the revelations?

Ivan gave the answer. I just wanted to focus everyones attention to this poetic choice of words. Online translator?, or do you consider yourself a poet. :up:

Grayson02sept1980 02-20-08 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis
:roll:

Grayson, if you want ships on the map just go into your realism options and enable them. The mod doesn't stop you doing that. Nor does it stop you using automatic targetting if you want that.

:up:

Yeah! But I am so used to using the map and also the SoundOfficer (Sonar etc...) on the map without sacrificing %realism... no offence to you!

I just need to get used to the fact that the F6 screen is totally useless now :lol: (for me!)

Just a matter of adaption and yeah you are right I can always switch it back on (and sacrifice 11% of realism :dead: )

I want to play at 100% and I will master it! :arrgh!:

Steel_Tomb 02-20-08 07:50 AM

So will only the UZO be destabilized? Will the scopes remain steady??

By the way, I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but my shots ALWAYS fall short of the target! :doh: Really don't know what I'm doing wrong.

Uber Gruber 02-20-08 07:51 AM

A quick question re destabalising everything.

I want to use the OLC GUI as, lets be honest, its pretty damn good and pretty historically acurate.

In real life we would ask the WO to provide a range estimate whilst surfaced (when you can only use the UZO). His estimate will be plus or minus 100M, which is too accurate for my liking and doesn't provide any uncertainty.

Because of his range accuracy, I currently manually estimate range with the UZO whilst on the surface.

Now, from my experiencing of using OLC GUI, its damn hard to get a range estimate when using the attack scope in bad weather if the scopes aren't stabalised. If we now destabalise the UZO then range estimation at this station will also become harder during rougth weather.

I'm happy to destabalise everything BUT I still need to be able to estimate range whilst on the surface in bad weather and arrive at a range figure which a real U-Boat commander would probably arrive at. What i'm saying is i'm happy for the UZO to be destabalised (thanks to Privateer) but only if it results in an increase in range estimation uncertainty during rough weather and not make range estimation useless.

I hope this makes sense:yep:

jmr 02-20-08 09:46 AM

I thought the whole reason why the periscope was stabilized is because SHIII lacks the same type of ghost image stadimeter as the one depicted in SHIV where an accurate range can be acquired regardless of sea state. The stock stadimeter was a royal PITA to use rough weather.

GOZO 02-20-08 10:43 AM

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So will only the UZO be destabilized? Will the scopes remain steady??
No do not, unless altering a few other things first.

Sorry but since the circular slide ruler comes in you no longer can compensate the pitching/rolling using the mouse. Only the arrow keyes do this and they are a far too blunt instrument.

Using the stock stadiameter I normally moved "unlocked" along two axis finally getting the number "notches" of the mast on the center vertical scale. Then memorising this number I brought in the movable horisontal line and got a fair distance estimation. (Rough weather that is)

Now the tilting of the optics was done by the operator and no doubt more delicate nature of movements than possible with the arrow keyes.:|\\

Here for one reason or another the scale is finer making it impossible to use the arrows unstabilized. Using a mouse input=> OK but arrow keyes => NO.:nope:

The horizontal scale for AOB takings, it´s ok but still..........:hmm:


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For the UZO, well according to the thread it was only the experience of the WO that counted here i.e. looking at the pure size of the object getting an estimate.

No instrument in R-L.

To conclude I will say we are staring ourselves blind on What is realistic or not loosing focus for the experience.


I guess we have to be very careful here or we will end up counting rivets!!!:cool:

A fantastic Mod/Tool OLC. Also a fine instrument encouraging/teaching newbees to manual targeting.:know:

/Per

Sailor Steve 02-20-08 10:48 AM

No, the scopes will NOT be de-stabilized. OLC stated in the 'Destabilized Deck Gun' thread that he wanted the UZO and binoculars destabilized because it was more realistic and because in his mod the UZO did not have the tools the attack scope has for calculating everything.

As jmr pointed out, the attack scope had a device that negated the movement of the periscope, and to get range and speed estimates the periscope has to be stabilized. Unless I missed something, that will not change.

GOZO 02-20-08 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve
No, the scopes will NOT be de-stabilized. OLC stated in the 'Destabilized Deck Gun' thread that he wanted the UZO and binoculars destabilized because it was more realistic and because in his mod the UZO did not have the tools the attack scope has for calculating everything.

As jmr pointed out, the attack scope had a device that negated the movement of the periscope, and to get range and speed estimates the periscope has to be stabilized. Unless I missed something, that will not change.

Very good. A reasonable compromise i think.:yep:

/OB

rulle34 02-20-08 12:13 PM

Great work on this one OLC but just a stupid question:
In your new release 1.2.2, how do you use this
"The blue diagonal marks have been added to the range/aob finder."
I cant find anything that tells me how to use this. Probably I have missed something but maybe you can tell me anyway:oops:

GOZO 02-20-08 12:27 PM

Do you have the latest version of 1.2.2?:hmm:

He just changed it due to some glitch. Same name new version;) .

I will test it tonight.

Cheers

/Per

P.S

Hey WaW? What kaleun do i have the privilege to talk to?

rulle34 02-20-08 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GOZO
Do you have the latest version of 1.2.2?:hmm:

He just changed it due to some glitch. Same name new version;) .

I will test it tonight.

Cheers

/Per

P.S

Hey WaW? What kaleun do i have the privilege to talk to?

Hello GOZO:)
I dont know what version it is but I´ll go for another try to see if it´ll be a later one.
About WaW it was a while ago. Retired captain for the moment but planning to start a new carrier as soon time will make it possible. Thats why I haven´t deleted the insignia:lol:
Linköping!!! -Mjölby is talking here:up:
Sometimes the world is quite small:sunny:

onelifecrisis 02-20-08 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve
Did someone say destabilized binoculars? That was one of the (very few) things I liked about SH2.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve
OLC stated in the 'Destabilized Deck Gun' thread that he wanted the UZO and binoculars destabilized because it was more realistic and because in his mod the UZO did not have the tools the attack scope has for calculating everything.

Steve, are you trying to give me a hard time?

I did not say I would destabilise the binocs. In fact if you read back a few posts you'll find me bitching about destabilised binocs and saying they're the only reason I don't want SB's mod because I'd rather chop off my left testicle than destabilise the binocs. Okay I didn't say that but you're hopefully getting by now that I don't want destabilised binocs so please stop saying that I do. :)

Uber Gruber, you're right, I know it, this whole destabilisation idea predates the addition of the yellow marks to the UZO and I wasn't thinking straight.

So to avoid the really quite incredible amount of confusion that has sprung up over this, please allow me the momentary use of a large font.

The scopes will not be destabilised.
The UZO will not be destabilised.
The binoculars will not be destabilised.
Sorry for the confusion.

Thanks,
OLC

onelifecrisis 02-20-08 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rulle34
Great work on this one OLC but just a stupid question:
In your new release 1.2.2, how do you use this
"The blue diagonal marks have been added to the range/aob finder."
I cant find anything that tells me how to use this. Probably I have missed something but maybe you can tell me anyway:oops:

It's just an alternative set of marks. No new functionality. You can use them instead of the yellow/red/green ones if you like, that's all they're there for.

rulle34 02-20-08 04:16 PM

Is the OLC 1.2.2 compatible with GWX 2.0?


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