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The Conservatives have agreed changes designed to speed up the contest to succeed Theresa May as leader.

Under the previous rules, all the candidates would have needed only two MPs supporting them, but the new rules raise that bar to eight.

After nominations close, all 313 Tory MPs will vote for their preferred candidate in a series of secret ballots that will whittle down the contenders one by one until only two are left.

The first ballot will take place on Thursday 13 June, with further rounds of voting scheduled for 18, 19 and 20 of June.

Under the new rules, candidates will need to win the votes of at least 17 MPs in the first ballot and 33 MPs in the second to proceed.

If all the candidates exceed this threshold, the person with the fewest votes will be eliminated, a process that will continue in subsequent rounds until only two remain.

Party members will get to question the final two candidates in a series of hustings beginning in the week of 22 June.

Then finally the entire Tory membership of 124,000 will choose the winner in a process to be overseen by the Conservative Party board, its national governing body. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48513896

This should make for a far better and representative contest. Sorting out the wheat from the chaff very early on.

STEED

06-05-19 09:30 AM

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A Tory leadership candidate says his competitors' claims they could negotiate a new Brexit deal before 31 October are "misleading".

The EU set the date for the UK's exit after MPs rejected Theresa May's deal.

Some candidates say they can agree a new plan by the deadline, but Rory Stewart said there was "not a hope".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48526999

He has a good point. :hmmm:

I just get the feeling some of them are just not...What ever.

Tory leadership candidates so far (Updated)

Boris Johnson 72%
Esther McVey 22%
Jeremy Hunt 60%
Rory Stewart 48%
Matt Hancock 32%
Dominic Raab 50%
Andrea Leadsom 55%
Michael Gove 68%
Sajid Javid 75%
Mark Harper 1%
Sam Gyimah 1%
(% is my predictions so far)

Jimbuna

06-05-19 09:47 AM

Ultimately Article 50 will probably be revoked, either that or the EU will throw the UK out by offering no more time extensions.

Jimbuna

06-06-19 05:31 AM

Today voters head to the polls in the Peterborough by-election for the seat formerly held by MP Fiona Onysanya who was removed in May following a recall petition after being sentenced to three months in January for perverting the course of justice over a speeding offence. Ms Onasanya, 35, had claimed someone else was driving her car when it was seen speeding on 24 July 2017.

There are fifteen candidates and it will be interesting to see how well the Brexit candidate will do. The seat was won by Labour in 2017, but the party only beat the Conservatives - who had held it since 2005 - by 607 votes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48540003

Jimbuna

06-06-19 05:38 AM

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Alastair Campbell says he has hired lawyers to fight against his expulsion from the Labour Party.

Good for him.

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He wrote: "No acknowledgement. No reply to emails asking for one, and for details of how they intend to handle the 'review' announced by Shami Chakrabarti.

Hardly surprising.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48534589

Catfish

06-06-19 05:55 AM

So the UK or what will be left of it gets the "best" "phenomenal" trade deal of all times and the world with the USA, but only if they obey and leave the EU.
So they get one deal with one nation while losing appx. 50 others.

And Trump generously offered to privatize the National Health Service with US health care companies.
https://www.politico.eu/article/us-t...ealth-service/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8857021.html
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...a-brexit-trump

A very special relationship indeed. The UK must have a lot of despa.. umm.. trust.

Jimbuna

06-06-19 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2613078)

I don't think the above is the case now.

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Donald Trump has rowed back on his remarks that the NHS should form part of a future trade deal between the UK and US.

The comment, made during his state visit to the UK, prompted a backlash from Conservative leadership candidates, Labour and trade unions.

But on Wednesday, the US president told ITV's Good Morning Britain: "I don't see it being on the table."

He added that the NHS was something he would "not consider part of trade".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48525211

Not saying I trust him either, we all know of his mood swings and the changes they can bring about.

Jimbuna

06-06-19 09:33 AM

It would appear some Tories are starting to hatch nefarious plans :hmmm:

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Commons Speaker John Bercow planted himself in the way of a Tory leadership candidate’s threat to suspend Parliament to stop MPs blocking a no-deal exit from the European Union.

In a scornful intervention, the Speaker said: “Parliament will not be evacuated from the centre stage of the decision-making process on this important matter.

“That is simply not going to happen.” With a derisive tone, he added: “It’s just so blindingly obvious that it almost doesn’t need to be stated, but apparently it does.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexi...id=mailsignout

Bilge_Rat

06-06-19 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2613081)

Not saying I trust him either, we all know of his mood swings and the changes they can bring about.

comments that NHS is on the table in the event of any USA-UK trade deal is just scare mongering.

Canada has a fully government controlled public health care. Dismantling it and/or allowing private U.S. companies to have access to it has never been on the table or part of any U.S. demands, not even in the latest round of negotiating the new USMCA (i.e. NAFTA 2.0) with the Trump admin.

Accessing the Canadian health sector by U.S. private health care providers would have been an easy fit since the Canadian-U.S. economies are already closely integrated. If it did not happen here, it will certainly not happen in the U.K.

Trump is famous for making outlandish demands but settling for a lot less, when talk of NAFTA 2.0 started, he was talking about dismantling all trade barriers. The final product, the USMCA, although it is a better deal for the USA is more a series of tweaks to the existing deal rather than a substantial revision. That is the reason why all Canadian politicians are quite happy to live with it.

STEED

06-06-19 11:33 AM

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The BBC has confirmed details of its first TV debate between Tory hopefuls vying to be the next party leader - and the country's new PM.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48547524

Pass the pop corn comedy hour is back on the beeb. :03: :haha:

STEED

06-06-19 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2613076)

Today voters head to the polls in the Peterborough by-election

What I can see its a two horse race between the Brexit Party and the LibDems. As for the rest they may as well go down the pub for a pint and pork pie.

BossMark

06-07-19 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2613127)

What I can see its a two horse race between the Brexit Party and the LibDems. As for the rest they may as well go down the pub for a pint and pork pie.

Wrong but am quite pleasentry surprised :up::D:yep:

Peterborough by-election: Labour beats Brexit Party to hold seat

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48532869

STEED

06-07-19 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BossMark (Post 2613185)

Wrong but am quite pleasentry surprised :up::D:yep:

Peterborough by-election: Labour beats Brexit Party to hold seat

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48532869

That was based on polls, just shows polls can not be trusted. Well the results show that this is not a safe seat and there is a possible general election any time and if we are still in the EU the main stream party's will get another hammering.

It's MayBots last day as leader the tories so the contest will be hotting up now.

Jimbuna

06-07-19 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2613127)

What I can see its a two horse race between the Brexit Party and the LibDems. As for the rest they may as well go down the pub for a pint and pork pie.

Hindsight can be such a wonderful thing :smug:

If the result is the beginning of a trend and I appreciate we are probably up to three years away from the next general election so far too early to predict an outcome.

I can see the Tories being wiped out and Farage having enough seats to make him the king maker.

Anything rather than letting Steptoe into No 10.

Jimbuna

06-07-19 05:06 AM

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Theresa May officially steps down as Tory leader.

Eleven Conservative MPs are vying to replace her as party leader and, ultimately, prime minister.

Anyone other than that clown Johnson.

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