I think those who are pro-EU want to see Britain going down.
And
Those who are anti-EU hopes Britain will gain from this divorce.

Markus

Well Markus, of course everyone is entitled to their own view. Here is mine: I'd like to see Britain and the EU establish a new form of partnership for mutual benefit. This doesn't only encompass economic aspects like those dealt with in the trade treaty. In fact the economic side of our future relationship is already predetermined: Both sides will lose, the economical weaker side will lose more and the younger generation will suffer the most.

My honest belief is that there are more things we have in common than things that separate us. The biggest problem at the moment is the loudest on both sides being those who are trying to bring us apart.

No one would expect much love if he got slapped in the face, called a tyranny, said goodbye with "17 million f'offs" or "We hate you"?
I take it the 27 nations have been astonishingly reluctant, most probaby because they know that despite propaganda bile and medieval nationalism the majority of England does not want a brexit.

You may know it was England that wanted to go, and Wales. Scotland voted against, as did Ireland. And in England it was the fat cats and elder, well-off who voted for brexit, not the young ones. The majority was scarce enough for such a decision, a lot of younger did not vote, it was not a refefendum and so on.

Whatever you make of all that, the "small number of issues" will not simply vanish because Farage or Rupert Murdoch, or some obscure internet site, tells you so.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...e-b758997.html

re Markus: Dominic Frisby, the comedian with the "17 million f'offs" to the EU can't explain why he voted to leave the EU :rotfl2:

From 2:00 on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nw2-2jIkPY

Comedy gold.

^This video brought back some sad memories. But we need to look ahead and wipe the slate clean. There is a lot of homework to be done on the EU side. The Brits will sooner or later discover sovereignty gives you a nice warm feeling but does not pay the bills. But first of all this goddamn virus has to be defeated.

"After growing up in a Zimbabwe convulsed by the legacy of colonialism, when I got to Oxford I realised how many British people still failed to see how empire had shaped lives like mine – as well as their own"

Some enlightening insights i think:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/202...imukai-chigudu

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...as-at-nativity


I said that most would sign/agree to this treaty without having fully red and fully comprehend it. And I am sure that is what happened.



And in the tiem they had, that simpyl wa snot even possible, practically, even if peope, would have spend hours and hours every remaining day to read. You can read - and reflect and comprehend - stuff only to such and such ammounts in a given time.



The eu parliametaries reserve right to refusew thre treaty, said they will not acept beighn pulled over the table by pressing tables. In which case the EU would again trigger one of its infamous backroom deal stunts that it practices always when it cannot get in formal and rule-complying ways what it demands.

"An Irish trawler was barred from fishing in UK waters by a patrol boat in the first post-Brexit fishing clash.

Dublin has never recognised the UK's claims of sovereignty over Rockall - sparking clashes over the fishing waters that surround it.
Skipper Adrian McClenaghan told RTE News: "They informed us we could no longer fish inside the 12 mile limit of Rockall."
The news comes as a number of EU firms refused to deliver products to the UK claiming post-Brexit tax rules make it too expensive. And some deliveries to Northern Ireland have been delayed since Christmas, with delivery operators "uncertain" of new rules post-Brexit, according to the BBC."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/135945...en-spain-live/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55552455

Typical first world problems, if he had the correct licence in the first place this wouldn't have happened, another bleeding EU moron who thinks that they can go anywhere they want and whenever they want, welcome to Brexit. :haha:

One day a rather inebriated Irish ice fisherman drilled a hole in the ice and peered into the hole and a loud voice said, "There are no fish down there."
He walked several yards away and drilled another hole and peered into the hole and again the voice said, "There's no fish down there."
He then walked about 50 yards away and drilled another hole and again the voice said, "There's no fish down there."
He looked up into the sky and asked, "God, is that you?"
"No, you idiot," the voice said, "it's the ice rink manager." :D

Whatever, bye.

https://www.politico.eu/article/5-re...-brexit-talks/

Regardless of unenlightened "Thick Paddy" jokes I do note that the Sun article doesn't mention that the British OPV was actually from Marine Scotland. Perhaps the Sun's editorial team feel that their English readership are too thick for such distinctions.

Mike.

@Catfish, Jonathan Powell was Tony Blair’s former chief of staff, whohoo, you certainly pick your sources don't you, a pro EU biased politician with a former dubious Prime Minister as leader of the UK and a tainted political party to boot, pftttt, bye bye.

@MGR1, that comes as no surprise to me as Rupert Murdoch wouldn't want to upset his senile readership while they're eating their fish and chips for breakfast now would he.

From the above link.

What a load of bollocks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCyRCstXKME

Perhaps everything in the garden isn't as rosy as some would have us believe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnY6pNyyCTw