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Skybird 02-13-23 11:30 AM

Ammo status of Ukraine not good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l3XShOfLIQ


Quote: " Whatever NATO says about scaling up - it has not signed contracts, NATO allied governments have not signed contracts with the weapons industry. "

Well.

Rockstar 02-13-23 12:06 PM

https://youtu.be/iploi3y9BWA

Dargo 02-13-23 01:24 PM

Russia may have lost an entire elite brigade near a Donetsk coal-mining town
KYIV — As Russia probes Ukraine’s defensive lines ahead of an expected offensive, it might have lost an entire brigade of the elite 155th naval infantry while storming Vuhledar, a coal-mining town in the Donetsk region.

“A large number of enemy forces, including the command staff, were destroyed near Vuhledar and Mariinka in Donetsk Oblast,” Oleksiy Dmytrashkivskyi, head of the united press center of the Tavriskiy District of Ukrainian defense forces, told POLITICO. “In addition, over the past week, the enemy lost about 130 units of equipment, including 36 units of tanks.”

Russian forces also were losing 150-300 marines a day near Vuhledar, Dmytrashkivskyi said. He estimated the brigade to have comprised some 5,000 soldiers in all, whose members had been killed, wounded or taken prisoner.

Russian tactical failures around Vuhledar have likely further weakened the Russian ultranationalist community’s belief that Moscow’s forces are able to launch a decisive offensive operation, the Institute for the Study of War reported in its latest update. Pro-Kremlin military bloggers have been mourning huge losses and criticizing the Russian command for sending the elite troops in frontal attacks.

The Ukrainian marines also published a video of Russian troops panicking and piling up on a battlefield near Vuhledar. “Go make a cemetery! Gosh, the first column went there and blew up, and then the second one went exactly the same route,” Ukrainian artillerymen can be heard saying while watching Russians approaching Vuhledar.

“The 155th brigade already had to be restaffed three times. The first time after Irpin and Bucha; the second time they were defeated near Donetsk — they recovered again. And now almost the entire brigade has already been destroyed near Vuhledar,” Dmytrashkivskyi said.

Russian military and nationalist community met the defeat near Vuhledar painfully. The Institute for the Study of War reported that recent footage of failed Russian assaults near Vuhledar has pushed some Russian military bloggers to call for public trials against the high-ranking officers as they continue to repeat the same mistakes.

The defeat happened only a few days after Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu reported about a “successful offensive near Vuhledar.” The Ukrainian Defense Ministry trolled the Russians by posting a video of a Russian military column being destroyed in the area.

Russian former paramilitary commander Igor Girkin, sentenced to life in prison in absentia for the downing of MH17 passenger flight in 2014, has called Russian generals “complete morons, who don’t learn from their own mistakes.”

In his Telegram military blog, Girkin, who uses the pseudonym Igor Strelkov, echoed the ongoing criticism of the Russian military community toward the commanders. He confirmed that Russian forces near Vuhledar had to advance in motorized and tank columns along narrow roads and ended up piling up.

“Ukrainian artillery shoots exceptionally accurately. More than 30 units of armored vehicles were lost. Dozens of tankmen were killed. Even more marines, special forces, and motorized riflemen died,” Girkin said. “All these losses turned out to be ‘one-sided’ — the Ukrainians shot the attackers like in a shooting gallery.”

Girkin pessimistically described the defeat near Vuhledar as the end of the offensive of the Russian army on the entire Donetsk front.

Ukrainians are not rushing to celebrate victory, though, as Russian forces continue to storm Ukrainian positions near Vuhledar, Avdiivka and Bakhmut, where Ukrainians are preparing for street fighting.

“I wish weapons from our partners would come more quickly, as that would give us the opportunity not only to protect ourselves and hold the attacks but also finally push them out of our territory,” Dmytrashkivskyi said.

https://www.politico.eu/article/russ...-ukraine-says/

Jimbuna 02-13-23 02:07 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thh3mV_wrkY

Jimbuna 02-13-23 02:12 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvBlPQjByd4

Jimbuna 02-13-23 02:18 PM

Putin began to travel by armored train because of fear of being liquidated - mass media

Russian dictator Vladimir Putin uses an armored train to travel long distances.

As reported by Censor.NET, this is stated in the investigation of the Dossier Center.

"On trips over long distances, the Russian president mostly preferred to use the boards of the Russian flying special forces. This was the case until recently. But in August-September 2021, Putin switched to an armored train," the authors of the article say.

According to journalists, an acquaintance of Putin said: "After the start of the war, in February-March, he began to use the train very actively, especially to get to his residence in Valdai." This information was also confirmed by a source in the administration of the Russian dictator.

Putin began to use the armored train more actively for his trips through Russia in the fall of 2021, precisely at the time when the Russian Federation began to prepare for war against Ukraine. Putin travels by armored train to his favorite residences in Valdai and Sochi.

Investigators note that Putin began traveling by armored train out of fear of being liquidated, since the movement of planes is easier to track in real time than passenger trains.

In the story, it is reported that the armored train has a bedroom, an office, a car for accompanying personnel and a car for special communications. The train is disguised as a regular passenger train, but it is issued by special equipment on the roof of one of the cars. Outwardly, the armored train is similar to a regular train, only instead of four axles it has six, instead of one locomotive - several, and special equipment is placed on the roof.

According to journalists' estimates, the train may cost a little more than 1 billion Russian rubles. The authors also found out that the special train matching the description belongs to the Grand Service Express company, which was owned by an offshore company associated with Putin associate Yuriy Kovalchuk and businessman Mykhailo Rabinovich, who is said to be a good acquaintance of Kovalchuk.

Photos of the outside of the train have never been officially published. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3399561

Jimbuna 02-13-23 02:29 PM

Current level of ammunition use by Ukraine is many times higher than production level of NATO countries, - Stoltenberg

NATO allies intend to ramp up industrial production of weapons and ammunition to replenish their own arsenals devastated by Russia’s war against Ukraine, and to help Ukraine in the future.

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said this at a press conference before the two-day meeting of defense ministers of the Alliance countries, Censor.NET reports with reference to Ukrinform.

"Ministers will consider measures to strengthen deterrence and defense... I expect the Allies to adopt new directives for NATO's defense planning. This will be a key driver for changes in our capabilities and will ensure robust deterrence and defense for years to come. Ministers will also consider how to increase our defense industrial capabilities and replenish weapons stockpiles," the head of the Alliance said.

"The war in Ukraine ... is devastating the arsenals of allies. Ukraine's current level of munitions use is many times higher than our production level. This is putting pressure on our defense industry. For example, the wait for large-caliber ammunition has increased from 12 to 26 months. Orders placed today will be delivered in just two and a half years. So we have to increase production and invest in its industrial capacity," Stoltenberg added.

He noted that NATO has just completed a stockpile review of ammunition and intends to increase it as part of the defense planning process. The good news is that several allies, including the US and France, have already signed new multi-year contracts with the defense industry, allowing for targeted investment in increased production capacity.

"I hope to achieve rapid progress in this work. This will allow us to help Ukraine and at the same time ensure the protection of every inch of the Alliance's territory," the NATO Secretary General emphasized. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3399568

NATO allies will be able to be party to agreements on security guarantees for Ukraine, - Stoltenberg

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg does not rule out that after Ukraine’s victory in the war waged against it by Russia, the alliance’s allies will be able to be a party to agreements on providing security guarantees to Ukraine.

He expressed this opinion on Monday in Brussels at a press conference, answering a relevant question from journalists, Censor.NET informs with reference to "Interfax-Ukraine".

"Will there be any international guarantees? It could be some sort of agreement in which allies also participate. I won't speculate how exactly they (guarantees. - Ed.) might be formulated, but I say that any agreements where NATO allies will be able to provide any guarantees to Ukraine, absolutely possible, and this can be part of a general solution for Ukraine to protect against further Russian attacks," Stoltenberg said.

The NATO Secretary General is also convinced that "before securing the future of Ukraine, we must help them win this war."

"And that's the main focus of what we're doing...That's condition number one. The second main focus should be that when this war ends, we have to ensure that Ukraine can defend itself. What we saw after 2014, when Ukraine was unable to withstand the second attack - (after. - Ed.) Russia illegally annexed Crimea, then in a few months they came to the east.And this war has been going on for years before a full-scale invasion. Now we need to strengthen Ukraine, with our support, training, long-term transformation, the transition of the armament of the Ukrainian armed forces from Soviet-era models to modern NATO models, so that Ukraine can resist further aggression. This is most important in order to secure the future of Ukraine, so that they have strong armed forces after a kind of peace agreement is reached after the war to prevent a third major attack on Ukraine," Stoltenberg detailed. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3399576

Skybird 02-13-23 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2852835)

NATO allies will be able to be party to agreements on security guarantees for Ukraine, - Stoltenberg
etc.

That is pure cynism.

The ukraine was given security guarantees when it was wlling to giv eup it snuclear weapons.

It then was given seucirty guarantees again after 2014.

Some months agao, Germany'S Baerbock tlaked of Germany becoming a giuranator of seucirty guarantees for Ukraine after all tis war right now. Germany. Guaranteeing security. LOL.

And now they want to give it again - security guarantees...?

Flee, Ukraine, run as fast as you can - dont get destroyed completely by their "security guarantees". Gotten burnt twice should hold a lesson... Western security guarantees are not worth the paper they are written on - they are only given in the expectation that one never gets called on them.


Or to use the poet's language:



Dear God, save me from hunger and desease -
and Western security guarantees.

Skybird 02-13-23 04:36 PM

Bakhmut: "Little by little the Russians are winning."


I only hope the loss ratio and ammo spending ratio beats the ratio by which the Russiand are numerically siperiuor over the Ukrainians, else to participate in this meat grinder had not made any sense for the Ukrainians. If they loose this part of the alnd, they must get something in return - else their loss is two-fold: loss and men/weapons/ammo.


The Pentagon had warned the Ukrainians to stick to Bakhmut already several weeks ago.



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64596363

tonschk 02-13-23 04:47 PM

Berlusconi blames Terrorist Dictator criminal zelensky for war in Ukraine

Berlusconi says he would 'never' have met zelensky like Meloni did

Silvio Berlusconi says US should withdraw support for Ukraine to pressure Zelensky into ceasefire


https://www.politico.eu/article/silv...kraine-russia/



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Dargo 02-13-23 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonschk (Post 2852853)
Berlusconi blames Terrorist Dictator criminal zelensky for war in Ukraine

Berlusconi says he would 'never' have met zelensky like Meloni did

Silvio Berlusconi says US should withdraw support for Ukraine to pressure Zelensky into ceasefire


[SNIP FUBAR]

Italy supported the creation of a special tribunal for the Russian Federation
Italy supports the creation of a special tribunal for war crimes committed during the Russian invasion of Ukraine. This was stated by the head of the Italian Foreign Ministry, Antonio Tajani, writes Sky24. “Killing a vulnerable and unprotected population is a war crime, and we will see how to intervene: if a special tribunal is created, we are not against of it,” Tajani said.

He also stated that Italy had never sent weapons to attack Russian territory and had never declared war to Russia. “We have a problem with the leadership, not with the people. If the leadership violates the norms of international law, we can only have one position: to condemn law violations, war crimes, violence,” Tajani explained.

https://odessa-journal.com/italy-sup...=%5Bnafo.uk%5D

Dargo 02-13-23 05:38 PM

Russians abandon wartime Russia in historic exodus
As Russian troops stormed into Ukraine last February, sending millions of Ukrainians fleeing for their lives, thousands of Russians also raced to pack their bags and leave home, fearing the Kremlin would shut the borders and impose martial law.

Some had long opposed rising authoritarianism, and the invasion was a last straw. Others were driven by economic interest, to preserve livelihoods or escape the bite of sanctions. Then, last autumn, a military mobilization spurred hundreds of thousands of men to run.

Russian President Vladimir Putin’s war has set off a historic exodus of his own people. Initial data shows that at least 500,000, and perhaps nearly 1 million, have left in the year since the invasion began — a tidal wave on scale with emigration following the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution and the Soviet Union’s collapse in 1991... https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...a-war-ukraine/

tonschk 02-13-23 05:39 PM

Gaetz introduces resolution to Stop military and financial aid to Ukraine,
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gae...rge-peace-deal

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Berlusconi blames Terrorist Dictator criminal zelensky for war in Ukraine


https://www.hostpic.org/images/2302140407060291.png
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXgZXRNI-lU

ET2SN 02-13-23 09:21 PM

^^ Um, do you understand that you got off at the wrong bus station? :yep:

I'm sure there are more profitable corners of the WWW where you can post this crap. :Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

Reece 02-14-23 02:54 AM

. . . and it is crap!! :yep:


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