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Rockstar 09-12-24 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna (Post 2926278)
Been wanting to reply to this...

Oh, don't flatter yourself; I'd seen that clip you posted a day before on one of the news aggregators I sometimes visit; when I saw saw it in the aggregator, I knew something was off and I traced down the source, which is where I found out it came from an openly (and, by the authors) acknowledged fake news site; when I tried to go back to the aggregator, I found the posting had suddenly vanished, so I presumed someone had brought the falsity of the piece to their attention; when I saw you post it in GT, I commented to point out the fact the item was, indeed, false and intended for humor, something you didn't do and particularly, you didn't cite the source of the clip; now, you and I may have known the clip was false, but there are some of your fellow bubbleheads, in seeking affirmation of their views and opinions, who would have taken your post as real; just trying to set the record straight...



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I like to flatter myself. Btw thanks for keeping it short. You’re still my hero.

vienna 09-12-24 07:08 PM

One of the fallacies and mistruths spread by the MAGAs is that Trump was being persecuted in the courts as a result of his running for President; a long, long history of lawsuits on municipal, county, and state levels belie the claim, proving Trump and his misdeeds have long been on the radar of the governmental authorities and those authorities have acted on those issues long before the Great Cheeto took his slow escalator ride down to the lobby of Trump Tower to announce his candidacy for President in 2015; the main difference now is that Trump has placed himself in the very public eye and can no longer finagle his way out of criminal responsibility as had been accustomed; his usual game of plea bargaining a charge down to a fine or other financial penalty was taken away from him once he got into the glaring spotlight of politics...

Let's look at a case against Trump that may tell why Trump felt he had to run for the cover of being a Presidential candidate; everyone knows that Trump once owned three (3) gambling casinos/hotels in Atlantic City, NJ and that he managed, in his own patented Trumpian fashion, to bankrupt all three of his casinos, which is a startling feat since casino ownership for virtually everyone else is a surefire money making venture; so Trump tanked his casinos, as he had/has done with so very, very many of his business ventures, but a lot of people are unaware of a particular issue that pushed Trump to run for cover...

Casinos are a hotbed of potential criminal activity; the continuous flow of vast sums of money in and out of the casinos offer tempting cover for things like money laundering, financial crime, etc.; there is little wonder that organized crime took a very strong interest in the big casino business; the Mafia, through puppet management, held strong control over the legal gambling business in places like Las Vegas; I once worked at a law firm that represented the Teamster's Union Central States Pension Fund (TUCSPF), which was also being used by the Mafia to launder money and, in fact, the Mafia was 'investing' Pension Fund money into the construction and/or purchase of casino properties in places like Las Vegas; I noticed that the TUCSPF cases would originate in other states and jurisdictions, but the law firm would seek and almost always get a change in trial venue to Nevada, specifically Las Vegas, and when I asked one of the lead attorneys why that seemed to be happening so consistently, he just sort of sighed and said, "Well, Las Vegas has the best judges money can buy"; the Mob held sway in Vegas then...

Money laundering was such a problem in casinos, a Federal agency, within the Department of the Treasury, was formed in 1990 to seek out and prosecute financial crimes, with a major focus on money laundering...



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Financial Crimes Enforcement Network


The Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) is a bureau within the United States Department of the Treasury that collects and analyzes information about financial transactions to combat domestic and international money laundering, terrorist financing, and other financial crimes.


Mission


FinCEN's director expressed its mission in November 2013 as "to safeguard the financial system from illicit use, combat money laundering and promote national security." FinCEN serves as the U.S. Financial Intelligence Unit (FIU) and is one of 147 FIUs making up the Egmont Group of Financial Intelligence Units. FinCEN's self-described motto is "follow the money." The website states: "The primary motive of criminals is financial gain, and they leave financial trails as they try to launder the proceeds of crimes or attempt to spend their ill-gotten profits." It is a network bringing people and information together, by coordinating information sharing with law enforcement agencies, regulators and other partners in the financial industry


Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financ...cement_Network

Agency Website: https://www.fincen.gov/


When FinCen was founded in 1990, they rapidly sought out and commenced to shut down money laundering in the casino industry; the Mob took note and quietly and expeditiously moved away from using the casinos as cover for money laundering; they were wise and only a fool would seek to try and buck FinCen...


Enter the Fool, in the form of Trump; he opened his three casinos in 1995 and immediately sought out as customers some of the shadiest persons and entities one could imagine; Trump had always wanted to be seen as some sort of mob boss or Don (the actual Mafia was approached by Trump to partner with him but they rejected him as he was viewed by the bosses as unreliable and untrustworthy), so he tried to fashion his casino business in the mold of the old Vegas casinos in the Mob days; shady financiers, criminal outfits, foreigners seeking to 'sanitize' their ill-gotten loot (including a large number of Russian bigwigs) all came to the Trump casinos; while the Mob was busy getting out of the business as quickly as possible, Trump was diving into money laundering with glee; however, FinCen was keeping an eagle eye on the casinos in Atalatic City and it wasn't long before FinCen took action against Trump:


FinCEN ANNOUNCES PENALTY AGAINST TRUMP TAJ MAHAL ASSOCIATES (Jan 28 1998) --

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The Department of the TreasuryÂ’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN)announced today that Trump Taj Mahal Associates (TTMA) has paid a civil money penalty of$477,000 for failing to file reports required by the Bank Secrecy Act (BSA). TTMA is located in Atlantic City, New Jersey, where it operates the Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort.

The $477,000 settlement amount is for BSA violations which occurred at the casino from April 1990 through December 1991. The violations are based on failures to file Currency Transaction Report by Casino forms (CTRCs) within the time period prescribed by the BSA.TTMA was cited for these BSA violations as the result of an Internal Revenue Service (IRS)compliance examination.

Source: https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-rel...hal-associates


Now, one would think a nearly half-a-million dollar fine would wake up the offender and cause him to reconsider reoffending; but not Little Donnie, since this happened seven years later:


FinCEN Fines Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort $10 Million for Significant and Long Standing Anti-Money Laundering Violations (Mar 06 2015) --



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WASHINGTON, DC – The Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) today imposed a $10 million civil money penalty against Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort (Trump Taj Mahal), for willful and repeated violations of the Bank Secrecy Act (BSA). In addition to the civil money penalty, the casino is required to conduct periodic external audits to examine its anti-money laundering (AML) BSA compliance program and provide those audit reports to FinCEN and the casino’s Board of Directors.

Trump Taj Mahal, a casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey, admitted to several willful BSA violations, including violations of AML program requirements, reporting obligations, and recordkeeping requirements. Trump Taj Mahal has a long history of prior, repeated BSA violations cited by examiners dating back to 2003. Additionally, in 1998, FinCEN assessed a $477,700 civil money penalty against Trump Taj Mahal for currency transaction reporting violations.

"Trump Taj Mahal received many warnings about its deficiencies," said FinCEN Director Jennifer Shasky Calvery. "Like all casinos in this country, Trump Taj Mahal has a duty to help protect our financial system from being exploited by criminals, terrorists, and other bad actors. Far from meeting these expectations, poor compliance practices, over many years, left the casino and our financial system unacceptably exposed."

Trump Taj Mahal admitted that it failed to implement and maintain an effective AML program; failed to report suspicious transactions; failed to properly file required currency transaction reports; and failed to keep appropriate records as required by the BSA. Notably, Trump Taj Mahal had ample notice of these deficiencies as many of the violations from 2012 and 2010 were discovered in previous examinations.



Source: https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-rel...icant-and-long


The law under which FinCen operates mandates a fine of USD $5,000 per violation, which means, at a total of USD $10 Million, there were at least five thousand (5,000) violations of the money laundering law committed by Trump, and, remember, this is a settlementt amount, not a per offense penalty; the government opted to settle with Trump and thus he avoided being criminally charged (as he should have been for such flagrant flaunting of the law), something he had relied on over and over again in his legal battles, seeking to settle out of court to avoid that orange jumpsuit (one does wonder how it would be possible to discern the orange suit from Trumps usual tinge)...

Trump knew he had probably taken too great a risk and, with FinCen looking over his shoulders, he probably knew FinCen's sister agency, the IRS, would like likely come knocking soon and they weren't known for being inclined to settle easily, which may explain why trump was so desperate to keep his tax returns hidden...


So, on March 06, 2015, Trump gets a USD $10 Million face slap and he needs cover against being prosecuted; 102 days after being fined by FinCen, on June 16, 2015, Trump takes that slow ride on the escalator into the 'haven' of being 'untouchable' because he is now a Presidential candidate and later shielded as president, and, once he no longer is shielded by being in the Oval Office, he runs again as his new shield...

When Trump first announced his candidacy, I really didn't know much about him other than he was on reality TV and some sort of media fame whore; I decided to do research on him to see what he was all about and I was surprised to see an awful lot of articles and news reports pre-dating his announced candidacy and they did not paint a very appealing picture; the above information was just a bit of what I found on Trump's dealings and failings prior to him becoming the Giant Cheeto; once he is no longer shielded by being a candidate, I have the feeling an awful lot of entities in the government and not a few private, civil entities are gonna line up and take their swing at Trump and his 'empire' over long-delayed issues and crimes...

Trump is not the unjustly persecuted victim he sells to the MAGA rubes and bobbleheads, he actually has a very long and disgraceful record of criminality, deceit, and avoidance of personal responsibility; all in all, there is little to nothing to commend him as someone fit to sit in the Oval Office (or even take a White House visitor's tour)...


That said, it wouldn't be too surprising after Trump loses on Election Day, and, of course, declaring "I was robbed!!", to see very shortly after Nov 05 2024, Trump declaring his run for the Presidency in 2028...



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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2926281)
I like to flatter myself. ...


Well, as least you have at least one person to flatter you; maybe you can scare up some other besides yourself... :D

...and, I am my own hero... :03:



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According to news reports, and the US agency handling voter registration inquiries, the link posted by Taylor Swift for her fans to seek voter registration info has garnered over 377,000 inquiries; I am not at all knowledgeable about Swift or her career, but, damn, that's an awful lot of pull for just one person...


Maybe Trump can...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWlot6h_JM


Hey, I'm sure if Kid Rock mobilizes his fans he can get a couple of dozen responders...



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Rockstar 09-13-24 06:23 AM

https://i.ibb.co/F62Kccc/IMG-0543.jpg

Rockstar 09-13-24 06:33 AM

https://youtu.be/ZKP6b4riQ38

AVGWarhawk 09-13-24 06:52 AM

Trump is not up for a second debate. Just as well. He'll never walk back eating cats and dogs. I mean seriously. He earned his losing this election. His handlers helped.

Torvald Von Mansee 09-13-24 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2926319)


Tulsi Gabbard is a known Russian agent and can safely be ignored.

Jimbuna 09-13-24 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2926325)
Trump is not up for a second debate. Just as well. He'll never walk back eating cats and dogs. I mean seriously. He earned his losing this election. His handlers helped.

It does look good in terms of entertainment value though :)

AVGWarhawk 09-13-24 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2926332)
It does look good in terms of entertainment value though :)

No doubt!!!

Rockstar 09-13-24 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2926325)
Trump is not up for a second debate. Just as well. He'll never walk back eating cats and dogs. I mean seriously. He earned his losing this election. His handlers helped.

Sadder still, is if Harris’s performance this past three and half years and last debate wins her this election.

AVGWarhawk 09-13-24 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2926379)
Sadder still, is if Harris’s performance this past three and half years and last debate wins her this election.

Trump's lack of being smart and staying on point wins Harris the election.

vienna 09-13-24 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2926316)


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zWU7w6...hlbiBjb2xiZXJ0

...the Biden MAGA hat bit might be amusing to you...




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Rockstar 09-13-24 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2926382)
Trump's lack of being smart and staying on point wins Harris the election.

And apparently Harris’s past three and a half years and her ability to deflect questions related to the border and economy is what will get her elected. People just love it the way it is.


6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other.

Jimbuna 09-13-24 12:28 PM

Over 30 lawmakers sign bipartisan pledge to uphold 2024 election results — including 6 Republicans

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Democratic election lawyer Marc Elias, publisher of Democracy Docket, has been warning that if Vice President Kamala Harris defeats former President Donald Trump in November, far-right MAGA Republicans will try everything they can to overturn the election results. And those Trump loyalists, according to Elias, are much better organized in 2024 than they were in 2020.

Not all Republicans, however, are on board with election denialism. And some U.S. House Republicans, according to Politico's Sarah Ferris, have "signed a bipartisan pledge to uphold the results of the 2024 election."

More than 30 lawmakers serving in the U.S. House of Representatives, Ferris reports, signed the pledge. Most were Democrats, but a "half dozen" were Republicans — including Rep. Don Bacon (R-Nebraska), who organized the effort with Rep. Josh Gottheimer (D-New Jersey).

Other House Republicans who signed the pledge included Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania, Rep. Lori Chavez-DeRemer of Oregon, and Reps. Mike Lawler, Nick LaLota and Anthony D'Esposito of New York State.

Bacon, in an official statement, said, "In America, we respect election results, especially once the courts and appeals work through the process. We fight hard to win during campaigns and then respect the results when the votes are counted."

Ferris notes that Trump "has continued to insist that he did not lose the election in 2020" and has been "stoking fear that he may again encourage his supporters to block certification of the election next January if he loses for a second time."

"None of the six Republicans who signed the pledge voted against certifying the 2020 election on January 6, 2021," the Politico reporter observes. "Several of them were not yet in office. A total of 139 House Republicans did vote against certifying President Joe Biden's victory.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...bc497c15&ei=70

Rockstar 09-13-24 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2926387)
Over 30 lawmakers sign bipartisan pledge to uphold 2024 election results — including 6 Republicans

Another inane article. I live here and I can tell you that every four to eight years the losing party always piss and moan, protest and even go to court over presidential election results.

And unless its a landslide win, it’s not going to stop.

Rockstar 09-13-24 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2926382)
Trump's lack of being smart and staying on point wins Harris the election.

Wanted to add something else here. Just before the debate started I heard two callers. One was a registered Republican from North Carolina stating he was open to voting for Harris but wanted to hear what her policies were before making a choice.

The second was a Democrat when asked what he wanted out of the debate. He said he wanted Trump to apologize.


I might be sticking my neck out by saying this. I think it’s safe to say neither of them got what they wanted out that debate.


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