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Rockstar 11-09-20 08:02 PM

Why is France contending with religious violence again after very public calls by Erdogan to boycott and incite violence. And Merkels was to quietly preach to Germans about the evils of hate speech? Either the German government is too stupid to recognise the problems or the German government is in on it.

Seems the U.K. got the hell out while the getton' was good.

Catfish 11-10-20 04:43 AM

The "EU" consists of 27 nations, each one with its own politics, interests and sympathies, or hate. Can you imagine 27 USAs to bring together and speak with one voice?
The right wing in Romania, Hungary and Poland is of course pro-Erdoghan, as probaly is the german AfD.

But Erdoghan will probably have not a good stand after Trump is gone, and with any successor of Merkel. Erdoghan is blackmailing all the time, if you do not !"§$.. we will open the borders and let the refugess flood in. Merkel is too lenient.
As i said before, if this goes on the EU can award itself the Chamberlain appeasement award.

Regarding the UK leaving we will see, some say that up to now it has been quite impressive, but no one here buys that after the last four-years' political grandstand show, economical development and Corona.

Jimbuna 11-10-20 09:17 AM

The government has suffered a heavy defeat in the House of Lords over its controversial Brexit legislation.

The Internal Market Bill contains measures that overrule parts of the UK's Brexit agreement with the EU.

Peers voted overwhelmingly to remove a section of the bill that would allow ministers to break international law - by 433 votes to 165.

The government said it would reinstate the clauses when the bill returns to the House of Commons next month.

It comes as trade talks continue between EU and UK officials in London as they try to reach an agreement over a future economic partnership.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54882088

Jimbuna 11-11-20 09:27 AM

A Brexit deal is "unlikely this week" and trade talks are "likely to move into next week", according to Ireland's foreign minister.

Simon Coveney said he was hopeful he would be "proven wrong" but played down the prospects of a breakthrough in the next few days.

EU chief negotiator Michel Barnier is in London this week to continue negotiations on a future UK-EU relationship with his UK counterpart Lord Frost.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexi...id=mailsignout

Catfish 11-11-20 05:13 PM

I fear it will offend you, but did anyone vote for Johnson? Except in his constituency?
Mrs von der Leyen was voted in by representatives of the 27 countries of the EU.
Johnson was not voted in but "elected" by paid-up members of his party.
(read this in the comments section)
But "Unelected EU bureaucrats?" :nope:

mapuc 11-11-20 05:30 PM

^ people in our countries like Germany, France, Denmark, Sweden and other members of EU can every 4 or 5th year say in an election who they want to be their Prime minister.

These Prime minister chose who shall be the leader of EU. This mean European voters has indirectly chosen this EU-leader.

Why not do as in USA, let the voters in the European country directly vote for who shall lead EU for a period of 4 or 5 years.

Shall we have same type of system - Winner takes all ?
Shall we have same type of electoral system where each country has a given number of electoral ?

And so on.

(Sorry I know this is the UK-Politics thread, but Catfish comment made me think of this)

Markus

Jimbuna 11-12-20 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2706439)
I fear it will offend you, but did anyone vote for Johnson? Except in his constituency?
Mrs von der Leyen was voted in by representatives of the 27 countries of the EU.
Johnson was not voted in but "elected" by paid-up members of his party.
(read this in the comments section)
But "Unelected EU bureaucrats?" :nope:

Certainly no offense taken but we are stuck with the system we have and it usually works pretty well. In fact, correct me if I'm wrong but only the parliament of Iceland is older in being as far as I'm aware and currently being too lazy to Google it :)

Jimbuna 11-12-20 07:23 AM

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One of Boris Johnson's closest aides, director of communications Lee Cain, has resigned amid reports of internal tensions in Downing Street.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54907188
Just a pity it isn't Cummings.

Jimbuna 11-12-20 01:18 PM

The "penny is dropping" in Brussels over the UK's post-Brexit status as an independent nation as the deadline for a trade deal nears, says Michael Gove.

The cabinet office minister told the BBC that British negotiators needed to see "movement on the EU side".

The two sides resumed talks in London this week, with a UK government source saying they were in the "final stage".

But gaps remain, such as on fishing rights, with the UK source saying the EU's position was "wholly unrealistic".

Negotiations are set to continue in Brussels next week.

Catfish 11-13-20 05:06 AM

So Cummings will leave?
 
So Cummings will leave?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKBN27T0P8

Jimbuna 11-13-20 05:23 AM

I most certainly hope so and closely followed by the bumbling buffoon if there is a God out there.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...out&li=BBoPWjQ

Jimbuna 11-13-20 05:44 AM

This really cracked me up :haha:

Quote:

April 9, 2014
On a recent trip to the United States , Tony Blair, Ex. Prime Minister of the UK and now U.N. Middle East Peace Envoy, addressed a major gathering of Native American Indians.

He spoke for almost two hours on his success in bringing about a lasting peace settlement amongst the warring nations of the Middle East, likening it to the way that the U.S. Government found a suitable agreement with the North American tribes.

At the conclusion of his speech, the crowd presented him with a plaque inscribed with his new Indian name - Walking Eagle.

A very chuffed Tony then departed in his motorcade, waving to the crowds..

A news reporter later asked one of the Indians how they came to select the new name given to Tony Blair They explained that Walking Eagle is the name given to a bird so full of sh!t that it can no longer fly.

Jimbuna 11-13-20 12:51 PM

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Cummings to leave No 10 with immediate effect
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54938050
Bye bye Dominic

Skybird 11-13-20 05:01 PM

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Given his undisputed talent as a campaign strategist, his current retreat from British politics is unlikely to last.

https://translate.google.com/transla...ne-Zaesur.html

Jimbuna 11-14-20 05:42 AM

Cummings made too many enemies behind the scenes and the final straw for Boris was supposedly when verbal attacks were made against his fiance.

No doubt it will all come out in the wash.

Jimbuna 11-14-20 06:01 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDPPe2UCWCM

Jimbuna 11-14-20 08:15 AM

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Trade talks between the UK and EU are reaching the "make or break" point, the two sides have said, with key differences proving hard to resolve.

EU sources said there had been less progress in recent days on outstanding sticking points than they had hoped for and the "moment of truth" was nearing.

UK sources said there were still "quite big gaps" between the sides.

Both sides doubted that a draft deal could now be reached in the coming days, as the EU had originally hoped.

The two sides are in a race against the clock to settle their future economic partnership in time for it to take effect on 1 January, when the UK will leave the EU's single market and customs union.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54935034
Why don't they just spin a coin :o

Jimbuna 11-15-20 07:31 AM

Sticking points over a post-Brexit trade agreement between the UK and EU "can be resolved" and a deal "can be done", says a government minister.

Environment Secretary George Eustice told the BBC's Andrew Marr "agreement exists" between the two sides.

But earlier, he told Sky News there was still "some way between us" and "time is very, very short" to agree a deal.

Irish Foreign Minister Simon Coveney said talks have "got to make big progress" in the coming week.

He told Sky's Sophy Ridge getting a trade agreement was "difficult but also very doable", and the consequences of failing to would be "significant".

The talks between the UK and EU are due to resume on Monday in Brussels.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54950011

Jimbuna 11-16-20 12:05 PM

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Boris Johnson, six Tory MPs and two political aides are self-isolating after a breakfast meeting inside Downing Street last Thursday.

One of the MPs, Lee Anderson, later tested positive for Covid-19, and on Sunday the prime minister was told to self-isolate by NHS Test and Trace.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54956076
You'd have thought Boris would have learned his lesson by now.

Jimbuna 11-16-20 12:07 PM

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Hungary and Poland have blocked approval of the EU's budget over a clause that ties EU funding with adherence to the rule of law.

The financial package includes €750bn for a coronavirus recovery fund.

Ambassadors of the 27 member states meeting in Brussels were unable to endorse the budget because the two countries vetoed it.

Hungary and Poland have been criticised for violating democratic standards enshrined in the EU's founding treaty.

The EU is currently investigating both countries for undermining the independence of courts, media and non-governmental organisations. The clause threatens to cost them billions of euros in EU funding.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54964858
Looks like the tail is trying to wag the dog again.


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