You're right. I feel so much better about it now....
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2201761

You'd feel better if they were knifed to death instead? Dead is dead regardless of the type of murder weapon used.

I know Im right.

Where did they get that number from? The U.S. has a population of 337,000,000 people. FBI statistics calculated there were 7.8 murders per 100,000 in 2020. Do the math.

Incidentally the rise in murder rates to 7.8 per 100,000 in 2020 was the sharpest spike since 1905.

Typical BS excuse remark. Thoughts and prayers but just nothing can be done about it... Total BS!

The State of California is the murder capital of the country. Sounds like a typical click bait doom headline when put like that doesn’t it?

But when considering the number of homicides is just a hair over 2000 per year in a population of 38,000,000 million people. Honestly IMO it’s really not even a blip on the RADAR screen. Next Id be interested to how many homicides were actually committed with a firearm. Was it a firearm, poisoning, club, knife, vehicular homicide, or just a good old fashioned kick to the head.


Does make good political hay though.

I live in Florida and we carry guns like we do our car keys and wallet. Total homicides per year here? 334 out of a little over 22,000,000 million people.

Guns are a great tool, but they are not the problem

I meant in general.
Anyone who give or sell a weapon who is used in a crime, would get arrested and accused.

Markus

The kid could not legally purchase a firearm. His father could and gave it too his son. Being the child is considered a minor not only is the father responsible for the child he is responsible for that firearm in his house as well.

The seller of a firearm in a legal transaction between adults is not responsible for what the other guy does with the firearm.

Don't lay your strawmen arguments on me Bud. I never said that nothing could be done about murder rates, i'm just pointing out that its a fallacy to think that a murderers choice of weapon should make some sort of difference to their victim or anyone else, except for authoritarian minded Democrats who want to use fear of an inanimate object to steal Americans supposedly constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms.

As I see it you can't accuse the Dems only. From my memory there has been mass shooting when the Rep was in charge.

Markus

Hmm...

....are they ice skating in hades...?...


Dick Cheney says he will vote for Kamala Harris --

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/liz-che...kamala-harris/


Ex-Republican VP Dick Cheney ‘Will Vote for Kamala Harris’ --

https://www.thedailybeast.com/liz-ch...-kamala-harris

I wonder what impact, if any this will have...



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I think you missed the point. We all agree homicides are committed each year regardless who dear leader is. The point he was I think making is that it always seems to be one political party that uses it as an excuse to stir up fear to steal away the right of the law abiding citizens.

There are currently round about 15,700 homicides committed each year using a firearm and one particular party’s solution is to restrict the other 337,000,000 million of us law abiding citizens.

Oh My mistake then-
Your comment made me recall Platapus signature

Markus

Of course Cheney is , gotta keep the war machine going you know to force Ukraine to sell off state assets to pay for the fighting. Luckily for Cheney I heard anyone looking for a way of ending the war makes them a Russian asset.

US corporations like ExxonMobil, Chevron, and everyone’s favorite Halliburton are having a feast. There’s not going to be anything of left Ukraine’s sovereignty no matter who wins :)

https://i.ibb.co/p6TmkyL/IMG-0472.jpg

Oh right, sure, Bud. You simply choose to miss the point that firearms are second highest cause of children being killed, and this authoritarian minded Democrat isn't afraid of firearms and owns several.

And since Trump's lawyer calls him President Trump, I'll post today's full unedited oral argument in Trump’s appeal of the E Jean Carroll verdict entered against him. I don't think it's going well for Trump.

https://youtu.be/V-vWabTC2dE?si=sgha57DEyw8kHsl7

That was my point but also....

.... those 15,700 homicides would still have been committed if all guns were somehow magically eliminated tomorrow. The weapon that was used would just have been something else, a knife, a club, a handy rock, piece of piano wire, a party cup full of gasoline and a match, you name it, there are many ways to kill someone. Attempting to restrict access to one tool will at most only cause the murderer to use another to commit their heinous acts.

If you want to stop it then it's the desire to commit the deed that must be addressed not the tool that was used. Anything less will fail.