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"Who should be in charge of migration policies?
Lowest approval rate for EU responsibility in the UK"

Croatia should become the main sorting area to get the refugees out of the economic migrants.

Why??

1) It's Croatia
2) It's EU bit not yet Schengen

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Originally Posted by Dan D (Post 2382375)

The elephant in the room is an underlying Islamophobia.

Which is of course completely unjustified as the Islamic mass immigration has only enriched countries and never caused problems.

Hurray we can finally be guilty again! :yeah::yeah:
It's all just our fault and ours alone!:yeah::yeah:

Well, you could wait untill ISIS runs over German Government and then redo the 1939, just with the ME flavour this time. (declaimer - this -is- a troll of sorts).

You won't be responsible for the new Government and could cut the infidel's heads and trade their wifes/kids/farm animals on the sex slave market just the same. Just don't over do it, so you don't get into leadership positions.

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Originally Posted by HunterICX (Post 2382378)

Well, we removed them as thanks to us by invading one country we allowed one to be hanged, the other we bombed the crap out and allowed the rebels capture and murder the other and where busy with the 3rd one till we may have started to realize that what we are reaping what we've been sowing.

Saddam, Gadaffi and Assad may not be posters boys for Human rights, Freedom, liberties and where harsh in anything that would threaten their rule which includes extremism but at least under their rule things where kept under an order people could live their lives by. You don't need to be an expert to know that these countries have a constant struggle of ethnic and between the different sects of the Islam that they can't be ruled unless it's someone with a firm hand that smacks down anything that goes out of order. That's why Western countries like Northern Europe is a paradise for these immigrants...what keeps them in check? Not our soft hand understanding of misunderstood people who break the law constantly justice system and our welfare system which can be easily abused.

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
Where are the leaders in the ME? The great statesmen who are fighting to wrench the extremists into order and lift up there people?

:/\\!! Saddam, Gadaffi and Assad? Those are the extreme opposite to great statesmen. I was thinking more like Washington, Gandhi, and Mandela.

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 2382451)

:/\\!! Saddam, Gadaffi and Assad? Those are the extreme opposite to great statesmen. I was thinking more like Washington, Gandhi, and Mandela.

Well, the region was fairly stable with them (after the Kuwait trip that is). Those countries obviously need strong leaders or they will sink into chaos so I rather have a dictator there than an unstable and incompetent democracy that is likely to be overthrown by radical Islamists rather sooner than later.

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 2382451)

:/\\!! Saddam, Gadaffi and Assad? Those are the extreme opposite to great statesmen. I was thinking more like Washington, Gandhi, and Mandela.

They may be great but they aren't strong to keep a powder keg due to it's diversity in ethnic and religious sects from exploding and spiral down into chaos and civil war as both Libya and Iraq are in since 2014.

The financial costs for Germany, assuming there will come 2 million new migrants until 2018 who show the same level of real or refuse dintegration and get access to the labour market like the migrants of the past decades (means you assume they will behave in a comparable fashion like the migrants we had coming in past years and decades). 900 billion Euros.. Even beyond 1 trillion possible. The man is calculating the so-called "Nachhaltigkeitslücke", which politicians hate so very much to mention and try to hide form the public at all cost. The term means the explicit and implicit debts of the state calculated together as one variable

German:
http://www.focus.de/finanzen/news/fi...d_5300619.html

Economic benefits and short-time stimuli for the economic cycle, play no real, realistic role. They are too minor, and too short-sighted.

An enrichment for Germany, an economic benefit? NO CHANCE. The additional net costs for the German tax payer if calculating costs and possible economic benefits, are in the range of 17 billion.

Per year.

The German interior ministry just released that about every 8th asylum seeker vanishes on his way to his housing facility once he has been registered...that's about 130,000 people of whom we have no idea where they are....Great Success!:yeah:

:/\\!!:/\\!!:/\\!!

Sorry, German only:
http://www.tagesschau.de/inland/fluechtlinge-1503.html

Myeah, it's a complete mess. Everything our officials have said since the start of the crisis have been shown to be false (by official studies made years ago).

Now the problem is that the countries of origin, do not want the refused applicants back.. so... I guess they can stay... right?

I am interested to see what happens next spring/summer, it sure won't get any easier.

Just leaving this here...

http://i.imgur.com/BXy94h1.jpg

Nice reading...(that's sarcasm here...in case someone didn't notice....).if it's accurate which I haven't verified yet.:dead:

It seems that Germany could do with some Slovene immigrants.

Another regrettable isolated case of a male Muslim mob of up to 30 people harassing underage girls in a shopping center in Kiel:
(German only)

http://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/schles...ienhof100.html

The perpetrators have been released again.:yeah: