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The Enigma 02-13-10 04:01 AM

I can understand that you are enthusiastic,
but why are you posting this now for the 3rd time in a row.

It gives me the impression of you spamming and enforcing your opinion on all who will not buy the game for the reasons stated.

So please stop posting the same message over and over again.

Diopos 02-13-10 04:19 AM

It is a bit vague actually...
Are you buying a PRODUCT (the game) or a SERVICE (the ability to play a game) ??? :hmmm:

[Question not limited to SH5/Ubi]





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Darkhat 02-13-10 04:24 AM

Stop screwing around so much, please. After all, it is way better than SecuROM. Cause at least it doesn't install rookit and spyware and destroys your hardrive and allows you to only play EA games...

Be thankfull. :yeah:

The Enigma 02-13-10 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkhat (Post 1266559)
Be thankfull. :yeah:

We must be thankful for this sad anti piracy implementation :o

What about not playing the game where and when you want to?
What about privacy?
What about loosing the internet connection in the heat of a battle?
What about not knowing what gets uploaded to their fine service?
What about the future, if the game isn't attractive (money) anymore to UBI, will their fine service last?
What about not being able to sell your game?
What about treating honest buyers like terrorists?

Ever thought about that?

Despite the many new (great) screenshots and (p)reviews, the issues of this DRM solution aren't suddenly gone.

Herz 02-13-10 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkhat (Post 1266559)
Stop screwing around so much, please. After all, it is way better than SecuROM. Cause at least it doesn't install rookit and spyware and destroys your hardrive and allows you to only play EA games...

Be thankfull. :yeah:

That's an excellent point. Spore anyone? ;)

tomfon 02-13-10 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitman (Post 1266536)
A guy in the spanish forum just commented that he had been using a game with such a DRM recently but got fed up from it and stopped playing. Well, he just receiced an e-mail from the game's company asking him why he stopped playing, if he is not satisfied with the product ... :nope:

Isn't it wonderful when companies show their concern for their customers? :rotfl2:

Elder-Pirate 02-13-10 11:04 AM

I'm seeing some newbies here lately ( other threads than just this one ) whom I think are really plugging OSP.

Hope UBI's Daddy Warbucks check is high enough for you.

We'll see who's cheering in a few weeks.

Brag 02-13-10 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elder-Pirate (Post 1266759)
I'm seeing some newbies here lately ( other threads than just this one ) whom I think are really plugging OSP.

Hope UBI's Daddy Warbucks check is high enough for you.

We'll see who's cheering in a few weeks.

Yeah, they come in groups or in quick succession one after the other and make brainless statements.

Pretty laughable. :haha:

razark 02-13-10 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diopos (Post 1266558)
It is a bit vague actually...
Are you buying a PRODUCT (the game) or a SERVICE (the ability to play a game) ??? :hmmm:

[Question not limited to SH5/Ubi]

No, you're buying a license to use a software application.

Cdr84 02-13-10 02:09 PM

On another note, unless I missed it (didn't read all 64 pages) no one has brought up the effect this can have on mods.

UBI can easily decide which mods you may use or stop you from using them all together with this type of DRM.

Read your standard EULA of any game.

Cdr

Webster 02-13-10 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cdr84 (Post 1266911)
On another note, unless I missed it (didn't read all 64 pages) no one has brought up the effect this can have on mods.

UBI can easily decide which mods you may use or stop you from using them all together with this type of DRM.

Read your standard EULA of any game.

Cdr

the mods issue has been widely talked about but we dont know if it will be an issue or not untill we get the game.

Ishigami 02-13-10 03:01 PM

Just to add a little more confusion:

In Germany there are regulations that give private end users (business users are different matter) the right to use software if they own the data carrier.
The thing is once you buy a game on e.g. DVD at a store you automatically have a valid sales contract with the store, not with the publisher. You already paid for the software, you own the data carrier and therefore you have the right to use the software no matter what.
Eula and stuff does not matter at this point anymore because publishers usually ask you to agree on the Eula terms on installation. At a point where you already purchased the product and that is not allowed in Germany therefore the Eula is void.
If the publisher wants the Eula to be effective he needs the end user to agree on the terms before the purchase. That is usually the chase for software bought via online distribution or the likes. You agree on the Eula and then you buy the software, that’s allowed.
Of course there other things that could get the Eula to be effective like an online updates (e.g. MMOs) and more stuff but that taking it too far I think.

What I wanted to say is that general assumptions (e.g. it is in the Eula) are not right for peers in other regions because they may have different laws.
As German I usually don’t care about Euals because most of them are in fact void for me.
And because UbiSofts DRM endangers my user rights, e.g. the one from above, I won’t support them.

I hope I did not write it too confusing… it actually rather simple…

Schultz 02-13-10 03:21 PM

1 funny thing about DRM, the saves won't occupy any longer your PC memory :haha:

SurfnSea 02-13-10 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infernos (Post 1266971)
1 funny thing about DRM, the saves won't occupy any longer your PC memory :haha:

Well, I'm not laughing. Be nice to UBI. Just because they think saves not taking up our computer space is a better thing does not mean we should put them down for being ignorant (eh... I'm being facetious here btw).

I'd much rather have my save because I make at least one back-up of it on other drive(s). On their server I have to hope my one save is not lost and accessible when I'm ready to play.

razark 02-13-10 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SurfnSea (Post 1267144)
Well, I'm not laughing. Be nice to UBI. Just because they think saves not taking up our computer space is a better thing does not mean we should put them down for being ignorant (eh... I'm being facetious here btw).

I'd much rather have my save because I make at least one back-up of it on other drive(s). On their server I have to hope my one save is not lost and accessible when I'm ready to play.

The saves will be on their server, as well as your local machine.


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