I'm sure they would initiate a civilized debate... :03:

In all seriousness though, what else do you need?
So all these numbers, reports and claims are vicious lies against Islam?
Why do you ignore these numbers?
And yes, they are not real muslims if they do not follow the Quran.
And if they follow the Quran, they must obey the Sharia law.

Simple.

Edit: And all these Muslims you claim that aren't radicalized... how do you know?
Because they don't say it?
Would you for as long as you are still a minority, when you know there are consequences?
The numbers provided in the video show a very concerning result, wouldn't you agree?

Edit²: (Sorry, sleepy...)
Well, about that...

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...on-court-hears

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...on-garden.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lee_Rigby
(Video)

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015...chop-off-head/

There's more... so much more. Shall I link it as well?

At the border. :03:

I wonder why it isn't and no one talks about Christianity, Buddhism or Jedi in this context... :hmm2:


As if Islam would be so complicated. It is simple.
Claiming the Quran is difficult to translate or understand is simply part of Taqiya - something that doesn't even remotely exist in other religions.

And "happily among us"?
Guess today I learned that 9/11 was the first muslim stunt?
Oh wait:


And I wonder what happened after 911, the "spring" of islamic terror?
Oops, sorry, can't link that many pictures here I guess so:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rorist_attacks


Posting numbers to back up claims I got laughed at for is shouting now?
Voicing my concern over something so radical that it may destroy the western world is shouting?
Well you might not want me, and others, to stop "shouting", because if we do, you may hear other shoutings soon in your country... oh wait!


And how many Christians, Atheists, Sikh, Buddhists or Jedi actually did chop off someone's hand for stealing...?
Aaaand now tell me how many muslims did this, are dong this, probably right now?
You are so apologetic, it is almost fascinating.
No matter if one simply writes something provocative, or backs it up with numbers (that haven't been challenged/proven wrong yet), you go on and on about "moderate muslims" when there is a real possibility that there are hundreds of millions of muslims who are indeed radicalized, would support Sharia law etc., acting as if we're talking about these few "unfortunate and isolated incidents".

Maybe he should have read the Quran more carefully before telling radical muslims that they aren't muslim...
Read it. There is no room for sugarcoating and interpretation, it is all there, black ink on white paper.

If you won't do what your holy book commands you to do (and the Quran is the unalterable, infallible word of Allah, mind you!) you aren't who you claim to be. What next? Vegans eating steak? Not that I'd blame them...

Surely, I do get your point and if you believe it or not - and if you may forgive my rather sarky tone tonight - I was breaking my head over this question for a long time and surely it is absolutely no matter of black and white, it is always shades of gray.

But.

The problem I am addressing isn't if you prefer the color red while I prefer blue, it isn't roses or daisies...
We are talking about an ideology that does cause measurable trouble.
You said it yourself "Then why are Muslims not chopping peoples hands off daily in London?"
I showed you that they do (and was surprised how often it happens, not only in London btw) and all you can return is: "Hardly a daily occurrence, is it?"

I rest my case, I think you would still argue against this when someone would be beheaded right in front of you.
You are completely unreasonable in this matter, I think. :-?
At least address the numbers I have provided, prove them wrong, don't just make up some "but my muslim neighbor is really nice!" kind of examples while I post links to severely disturbing news, incidents and numbers.

In the end, do you think I want them to be true just for the fun of it?
I wish they would be all BS and Islam is the praised religion of peace,
but considering whats going on - and the numbers provided - why would I believe so?
Reminds me of these hardcore bible belt christians who home-school their kids so they won't hear these "lies" about evolution... or literally anything scientific. :-?

Closing:
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Have a good night mate.

An ideology's content is ideological content. It is that content, and no other - else it would be a different, another ideology. But it is not another one, but this one. This is this and that is that.

Not only do you constantly make false assumptions and claims about this ideology's content, following the mainstream political correctness about it and the pathetic self-victimization of its audience, but you constantly mistake ideology with race, that'S where your problem comes from - and where other people'S problem with you come from.

You just ignore the unwanted reality - but still you get found by the consequences of doing so. And that will never be any different.

Lefties heads will explode after watching this...

https://youtu.be/iZrGeq3aKTU

No.

If as many Muslims are radicalized as the numbers claim, so 680.000.000(!) (and so far no one debunked these numbers), you can't compare it to that one Nazi on Subsim, we aren't speaking minorities anymore.

Did you actually watch the video I linked?
Why don't you answer my question regarding the numbers it stated?
Look, you can do what you want, but when you chose to simply ignore them because you don't like them, this is futile.
The least you could do is to address them or provide data that contradicts them.
"A million"?
What about up to 680 million?
Mind you, radicalized doesn't mean "Honey, hand me my explosives vest!", it means being ready to accept Sharia law.

I stopped reading further.
I hoped you would address my points instead of evading to talk about this surely horrible number.

Sure, ok, you win, well done.

I don't want to "win" against you, I want to hear what you think about the number 680million - and what if the number is even HALF accurate? :-?

With winter almost over, there is talk stirring over here again of another arab spring. Get it, arab 'spring' migration.

So whats the plan?

Plan? What plan? There has never been one here.:down:

Merkel is trying to get Erdogan to stop the people from coming here which he won't of course as it's not in his interest. He'll take all the cash we have to offer and will do token things just enough to be important to us and keep us in a position of dependence which he'll exploit in the years to come.

Meanwhile the opinion here has swayed around almost 180° and people are getting fed up with constant immigration of unregistered people. I myself have never felt more betrayed by a German chancellor in my lifetime.:/\\!!

Merkel now is what the Americans call a lame duck. She's done.

We do not speak about refugees. We speak about wealth migrants. And world-wide, several hundred millions are sitting on packed bags and are willing to move to Europe and Germany, if opportunity arises.

Merkel has managed to get Germany as isolated like it never was before since WWII. The weakness over the migrant issue will emit into other fields as well, namely the debt crisis. The days of Germany giving the impression of being the unwavering bastion for defending fiscal discipline, are over. In fact, Germany never really was that, just wanted to give the impression to the German voters to get their votes.

Just days ago, an internal analysis of the German finance ministry popped up, revealing deficits in projected German yearly budgets of 7 billion per year, bringing Germany's debts until 2050 or 2060 to over 220% of the current GDP. Compare: Greece debts currently are 185% of its GDP. Thankfully, cash money gets campaigned and lobbied to be abandoned. That will make it easier for the criminals to forge more debt-"money" and to plunder private savings.

The whole mess that Germany, the other nations, the EU is - it all already is exploding us into our faces. its just that the explosion takes place in kind of slo mo. If you only have a quick glance, you see nothing moving. Later historians will run the movie in faster mode, see the shock waves expanding and the dust clouds racing along, and wonder: why did they let it get that far?

I wonder whether the Britons will allow to get fearmongered by unions and Cameron into refusing to leave the EU. Its a great chance they have, and I strongly recommend and encourage them to leave. I wish we would leave, too, but servile dogs that us Germans are, always believing in strong state and getting regulated and getting nannied by some Führer, we will always have this right withhold from us is by our puppet masters. And when we do not raise and revolt against them, we do not deserve it any better.

Where the southern European states today are, we will be by the middle of this century, or short time after that. Wir schaffen das.

As far as America is concerned, my impression is that Washington already has written off Europe. I cannot criticise them for that, other world regions are far more important now than Europe. The EUSSR's claim, and reality, have not much in common.

I can sympathize with much of what Schroeder and Skybird have posted above and believe a growing number of Brits would also.

Personally speaking, I'm happy the Brits are soon to get the referendum so obviously needed to allow us to make our own position clear and hopefully allow us to take full control of our affairs again.

I believe there are other EU members awaiting said outcome because they are also asking similar questions of themselves.

Here's the source, just an FYI. http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/t...-about-sharia/

Keep dreaming. CDU and SPD still would get enough votes between them to continue the insanity.:/\\!!

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/al...6337663761.jpg

http://www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/index.htm

And since they have nobody else "Mutti" will continue to ruin the country.:yeah:

http://i.imgur.com/r3iJiEU.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx_N4y1gmdc