What is difference between classical torpedo and kaiten type?

Kaitens were human torpedos, literally.They were torpedos with a compartment for a "pilot" So the fish was launched and the pilot could steer the torpedo to the targets.Crazy the Japanese were:arrgh!:

Interesting! Does he describe in the book how the japanese set up their attacks? How they estimated range, AOB, and such? Would be interesting to know :up:

looking into it ! :up:

already read that I-25, when coming back from the west coast, sank teh russian submarine L-26 which at the time was travelling in pair with L-25 at a range of 500 m !

Hashimoto states that the firing of torpedoes at a greater range than 800 m has poor accuracy :o

keltos

he talks about getting set up to fire at green 45..

see also the sniking of the Indianapolis :

http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq30-8.htm


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USN mission to japan 1946 : IJN TDC analysis

http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/prima...ort%20O-32.pdf


keltos

torpedo attack protocol
 

from sunk !

"It was necessary to know range, course and speed of the target in order to aim and obtain a hit - for the most part the captain at the periscope had to make the necessary estimate.


If the class of ship were known its speed, of course, could be deduced by counting the engine revolutions with the hydrophones. In the case of a merchant ship one could get the course and speed by following up astern, obtaining the range by radar...

...

The expected range at the time of firing - two thousand yards - and the bearing - green fourty five degrees - were set.

...

the favorable moment for firing was approaching. I altered the setting on the director to green sixty degrees, range fifteen hundred yards, and began the approach for firing.

At last, in a loud voice, I gave the order, "Stand-by - Fire !" The torpedo switch pressed at intervals of two seconds and then the report came from the torpedo room, "All tubes fired and correct"

siw torpedoes were speeding, fanwise, towards the enemy ship.

...

the ship we had sunk turned out to be the Indianapolis."

Hashimoto, Sunk !, 1954, pp 222-225.


from I-Boat Captain :

"I tried to judge their speed from the bowwave each was making and called out," Target speed is 26 knots ! there are two ships in sight !"

then I began to call out ranges and bearings.
"bearing Mark !" I cried out, and lieutenant Kondo answered "Set !"

the angle between the destroyers' bow and the line of sight between him and me was 40 degrees, right. Range was 600 yards.

p 163.

Elco torpedo boats
 

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south africa.


I am being harrassed by a DD and an Elco Torpedo Boat. I fired a torp at the torpedo boat which hit the DD :haha:

but I was wondering : shouldn't the Elcos be armed with at least a couple depth charges ??

from my readings they were a major pain in the butt to the IJN I-Boats, and this by no small measure since a torp would go underneath them without exploding !

I also read they used to make torpedo attacks and then drop DC on IJN subs.

can we add DC to them ?

keltos

Sorry, wrong question.
What is difference between classical torpedo and kaiten type in this mod?

all torpedoes have their RL characteristics.

Kaitens are based on the homing torpedo types V and XI with a broader sensor range as it was not possible to add an eyeball sensor to them.

they are fired from the tubes for now, but have the kaiten 3d model and explosive power too.

try the Jyunsen B mod and see !

keltos

I agree, they should have a few depth charges, say 10 for the sake of gameplay.Wish someone would add depth charges and sonar to the IJN patrol boats.

That's interesting info keltos :salute:

From the text it seems the captain actually called the AOB, but then the TDC operator converted it to target course before entering it in the TDC. It also seems they calculated a solution for a set moment in the future, and the TDC did not autoupdate like the german or US one. This is difficult to simulate in SH4 with the german TDC :hmmm:

did you have time to analyse this ?

USN mission to japan 1946 : IJN TDC analysis

http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/prima...ort%20O-32.pdf

you guys going to finish this or what taking a long time

Yes it is taking a long time. I have a lot of Real Life issues to deal with and that caused problems with time to work on it. Plus having to learn as we go, it is taking a LOT longer than we wanted. My fault, so I guess you will have to play your campaign until we finish.

Peabody

Prob a more polite way to say this, fyi.