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MGR1 01-07-20 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2643477)
Pretty much as it was for the previous leadership election. Anything to make a fast buck :nope:

Considering what appears to have happened last time, I wonder how many Tories are going to register so they can cause as much havoc as they can?

In the meantime, the announcement that Javid is going to set out the new budget on March 11th is causing a few problems for the devolved governments:

UK budget date is 'disrespectful to devolution', says Derek Mackay

Mr Mackay (SNP, MSP for Renfrewshire North and West) is the Scottish Government's Finance Secretary.

The headache is thus:
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Why is the UK budget so important to the Scottish one?

Despite fiscal powers including income tax being devolved to Holyrood, the UK budget process still has a huge bearing on the Scottish one.
To start with, how much the UK government spends on each department has implications for the block grant - the package of funding allocated to Holyrood via the Barnett Formula.
The forecasts of tax revenues from the Office for Budget Responsibility - which come out alongside the budget - also have a bearing on the block grant, as they form part of the calculations underpinning the devolved tax system.
There is also the issue of the gap between the Scottish and UK tax systems - if Mr Javid decided, for example, to cut the higher rate of tax, Mr Mackay would have to decide whether to follow suit, or widen the gulf between what higher earners pay north and south of the border. He contends that he cannot make an informed decision until he has seen the full picture.

What's the process at Holyrood?

Unlike at Westminster, there is actually a hard deadline on the Scottish budget process - the end of the current financial year.
Unless a "rate resolution" setting out income tax rates and bands is passed by 1 April, the devolved income tax system ceases to apply.
The rulebook as it stands doesn't provide for this happening. The Chartered Institute of Taxation says it would see Scotland "effectively foregoing its ability to set its own income tax rates".
There are other practical hurdles too, such as drawing up and passing a Budget Bill. Normally this process stretches out over a period of months, with each Holyrood committee carrying out scrutiny of spending on their particular portfolio and MSPs holding debates in the chamber.
This year, the parliamentary part of the process might have to be pushed through in a matter of days - leaving little time for scrutiny or deal-making between parties.
Depends on what Johnson and Cummings' intentions are on the devolution question. If they're doing this with an eye to collapsing the devolved Income Tax system, they can then make major changes to the nationwide one without causing pain for Scottish tax payers (due to a potential differential caused by SNP policy if Income Tax is still under Holyrood's control) thus hopefully (for them) making Scots more likely to favour Tory policy on tax rather than that of the SNP. This would strengthen the Pro-Union side in the Independence debate, which has always been argued on the basis of finance and the economy.:hmmm:

Or, just as likely, they don't have a clue as to how the devolved financial agreements actually work.

Mike.

Jimbuna 01-07-20 10:57 AM

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Jimbuna 01-07-20 03:00 PM

I will be quite concerned if this what we end up with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n622hidbZRs

Jimbuna 01-08-20 08:51 AM

https://i.postimg.cc/gJJKb7wZ/818399...97528064-o.jpg

Jimbuna 01-08-20 09:07 AM

Quote:

Brexit: Full UK-EU trade deal 'impossible' by deadline - von der Leyen.

The UK and the EU will remain the "best of friends" but they will "not be as close as before" after Brexit, the new European Commission president says.

Speaking ahead of talks with the PM, Ursula von der Leyen warned it would be "impossible" to reach a comprehensive trade deal by the end of 2020.

She said if the deadline was not extended it was not a case of "all or nothing", but of priorities.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51028614
Watched her speech earlier on tv and have to say I was impressed.

Skybird 01-08-20 09:13 AM

We have had her for years, her and her impressive speeches. But be warned: don't get fooled, she is a dud, and her speeches are empty shells. She did not score a single goal in two different ministries, only polished cosmetics. Other women paint their finger nails. She holds speeches. Its the same hobby.


More important for you brits is that the EU parliament has raised new hurdles. They just have said that their will be no access for the UK to the block's shared market without full freedom of movement into the UK. What was it again that played a decisive role in the Brexit referendum...?

Jimbuna 01-08-20 09:21 AM

Well, she certainly came across as being more communicative than Juncker.

Skybird 01-08-20 11:34 AM

Yes, she is a master and artist in turning sweet word garlands that pour down everyone's ears like honey, milk and sugar. Thats her most outstanding quality. And her only one.

Lagarde is the same kind of blender. Completely clueless in econcomics, and mercilessly left in anting to enforce the continetal supertsate (under French dominace, of course, with the Germans planned to be paying for it endlessly).

Terror sisters.

I say again, Jim: don't get fooled by her. Shine and facade and cluelessness, thats all. And sicn eshe has zero economic understandings and just illusions about Europe'S power and strategic options, she will do probably more damage than any of her predecessors. And it will cost us awesomly to pay for her illusions.

Why do you think the Eastern Europeans agreed to her? Because they wanted a strong EU head of superstate...?

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On a side note, it dawns more and more on the German media crowd that the Brexit becomign real will have a consequences that before was just briefly mentioned and then ignored, since Brexit was meant to not become real anyway over here: by the dictate of Lisbon, decisions in the European Union are taken with a double majority: 28 member states, 55 percent must agree, that are 15 countries then, thes emust unite 65 percent of the total populations of all the eU state. Conversely, states that represent 36 percent of the European population guarantee something like a blocking clause. After the departure of Great Britain (64 million inhabitants), Germany will never again achieve this quota with its traditional partners. This means net payers will never be able again to block any decisions wanted by net receivers to increase the money transfers and wealth distribution from the payers to the receivers. Add to this that now there is Lagarde, and then count one and one together.

The Brexit will become far more costly for some nations than for others. For some others, it is an almost divine present from heaven. And the path is freed of any obstacles for the EU mercilessly pushing for more superstate, planned economy, socialisation of national debts, unemployment insurrances etc etc etc. That will become so much fun!

Skybird 01-09-20 08:36 AM

Military disempowerement, Brexit, Scotland, Ireland, and now Harry and Meghan raising questions about the UK's modern identity and the meaning of its royalty - time seems to be determined to drive its fangs deep into the structural integrity of the UK. How many more challenges to its unity can it digest without breaking up?

Catfish 01-09-20 09:04 AM

Cummings and this de Pfeffel will see to it.
(Fresh Cambridge Analytica leak shows global manipulation is out of control)

Documents:
https://twitter.com/hindsightfiles.

Jimbuna 01-09-20 09:15 AM

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Jimbuna 01-09-20 09:59 AM

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Catfish 01-09-20 10:04 AM

Harry and Meghan stepping back from royal family.. is this really an issue in England?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...m-royal-family

Imho this is a reasonable decision and makes more sense than what happens in politics.

Jimbuna 01-09-20 10:29 AM

The supposed 'highlight' of the story is apparently that they didn't inform the Queen prior to making their decision public.

Jimbuna 01-09-20 10:33 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s24ulpRWHwE

Jimbuna 01-10-20 07:21 AM

Doesn't this fool realise one of the reasons Corbyn was such a turn off to the electorate was because of his anti royal position?

Quote:

Labour leadership candidate Clive Lewis has said there should be a referendum on the future of the Royal Family.

Speaking at his campaign launch in London, he said: "A lot of people would like to see the monarchy scaled down."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51062770

nikimcbee 01-10-20 05:45 PM

I finally found a party I can get behind.


Free United Kingdom Party!


Let's do it Jim, Let's run for Office.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZDxuFjM3hI




Platform

1. Move capitol to Newcastle. Renamed Geordieland.

2. Appoint Steed Minister of Fishnchips.
3. Free Buna Funkmod for all, funded by a hair length tax.

Jimbuna 01-11-20 08:03 AM

^ If only Jason, if only :)

Jimbuna 01-11-20 09:18 AM

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Catfish 01-11-20 05:24 PM

England's memories are taking it further into darkness


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