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AVGWarhawk 08-17-24 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2922629)
Could it be because she's going to continue Bidens politics domestic and foreign ?

Markus

Who wants another 4 years of what we endured?

Buddahaid 08-17-24 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2922627)
You support Harris and Walz. Tell me why without mentioning Trump and Vance.

If you tell me policy, she has none until yesterday.

Because I think it’s better policy. I don’t have to defend it to your liking.

AVGWarhawk 08-17-24 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2922631)
Because I think it’s better policy. I don’t have to defend it to your liking.

She had NO policy until yesterday. Price fixing is not policy. It's communism. What policies are better? She basically is looking like a Republican with her flip flop.

Anyone but Trump is your policy.

mapuc 08-17-24 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2922633)
Anyone but Trump is your policy.

I think millions of Americans have this motto: Anything than Trump

Markus

AVGWarhawk 08-17-24 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2922635)
I think millions of Americans have this motto: Anything than Trump

Markus

True.

Armistead 08-17-24 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2922465)
She is going full communist. She is stopping price gouging at the grocery store. Her wonderful economic plan. The beginning of food control. Communist.

During COVID, several bills regarding price gouging where brought up, but none were ever passed into law. Course both Feds and states have general laws already and stricter laws during emergencies to deal with it. It's interesting, with so much of it claimed govt investigations have every found little to do with it. States sometimes find it during emergencies at a more local level, ya know, some bum that owns a corner store way rural charging $10 for a gallon of gas. Harris doesn't seem to grasp how economics work and where the cost arise, mainly energy and supply and demand. Imagine a lot more regulations companies have to comply with and prove they're innocent of price gouging would only increase cost. It's much how Dems pushed the mass of private doctors into large profit driven corporate conglomerates with a mass of regulations and high insurance cost. They cause the problem, then complain of the outcome and want to fix it by causing more problems, like socialist govt ran healthcare. It's like the new public restroom model in San Diego, designed 'gender neutral' and for climate change. A mere 400 sq ft at 2 million bucks. Harris isn't proposing anything new, this is the Cali model coming at a national level. With Cali already seeing negative migration and businesses fleeing, if she could get her plans through nationally, where are we to go? Will Mexico build a wall to keep us out? Course her fix will again be more govt control, AKA socialism. Course the likelihood of her getting any of this through congress is not likely.

AVGWarhawk 08-17-24 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 2922639)
During COVID, several bills regarding price gouging where brought up, but none were ever passed into law. Course both Feds and states have general laws already and stricter laws during emergencies to deal with it. It's interesting, with so much of it claimed govt investigations have every found little to do with it. States sometimes find it during emergencies at a more local level, ya know, some bum that owns a corner store way rural charging $10 for a gallon of gas. Harris doesn't seem to grasp how economics work and where the cost arise, mainly energy and supply and demand. Imagine a lot more regulations companies have to comply with and prove they're innocent of price gouging would only increase cost. It's much how Dems pushed the mass of private doctors into large profit driven corporate conglomerates with a mass of regulations and high insurance cost. They cause the problem, then complain of the outcome and want to fix it by causing more problems, like socialist govt ran healthcare. It's like the new public restroom model in San Diego, designed 'gender neutral' and for climate change. A mere 400 sq ft at 2 million bucks. Harris isn't proposing anything new, this is the Cali model coming at a national level. With Cali already seeing negative migration and businesses fleeing, if she could get her plans through nationally, where are we to go? Will Mexico build a wall to keep us out? Course her fix will again be more govt control, AKA socialism. Course the likelihood of her getting any of this through congress is not likely.

Well for shat sake, Biden and Harris did nothing for 4 years. This is classic bait and switch campaigning.

Armistead 08-17-24 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2922641)
Well for shat sake, Biden and Harris did nothing for 4 years. This is classic bait and switch campaigning.

Eh, be fair, you can't say they didn't do nothing for 4 years. They opened the borders, were likely the root cause of wars starting, highest inflation in decades, etc.

Buddahaid 08-17-24 07:04 PM

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Bilge_Rat 08-17-24 07:35 PM

I remember when Canada and the USA had price controls in the 70s and I actually researched and did a paper on it for one of my political science classes in University.

Bottom line, it can work, but it is a temporary fix, you will freeze/slow down price/wage/profit hikes while controls are in place, but prices/wages will more or less catch up as soon as the controls are lifted.

In practice, you also need a whole bureaucracy in place to make sure prices are not being raised and reviewing when prices/wages should be allowed to raise for economic reasons, since a total price/wage/profit freeze is impossible.

Bottom line, sounds good in theory, but not worth the disruption to the economy in practice.

This is also not a right/left issue, Nixon put it in place in the USA. The Conservative Party ran on it in the 1974 federal election, lost and then the Liberal Party put then in place a few months later.

mapuc 08-18-24 06:49 AM

Fake or true ?
Someone posted following on fb

"So now he is selling cereal for $25 a box"

$25 for a package of cereal :o

Must be fake since he have attacked stores and companies who has been taken to much for the products.

Markus

AVGWarhawk 08-18-24 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2922676)
Fake or true ?
Someone posted following on fb

"So now he is selling cereal for $25 a box"

$25 for a package of cereal :o

Must be fake since he have attacked stores and companies who has been taken to much for the products.

Markus

Not true. However, groceries have gotten very expensive. Price control is not a method for fixing the underlying problem. Giggles campaign looks like she's running for senior HS class president. Her handlers know the economy is the number one issue. The baiting for voters is only going to get worse.

I'd like to point out energy cost has skyrocketed as well. Last months electric bill for my home was $506 US dollars. Last year the average for July was $340 US dollars. Trump years $250 average. Price fixing food costs ain't going to cut it.

Buddahaid 08-18-24 07:49 AM

Okay, I’ll bite. Prices were even lower during the Obama years so just what is that underlying problem that Captain DJT Bonespurs has explained a solution for? Drill baby drill? We’re already doing that. Bringing manufacturing back domestically? We’re already doing that. Bringing down inflation? We’re already doing that.

Trump’s big economy speech was entirely bereft of substance. He has no clue.

AVGWarhawk 08-18-24 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2922690)
Okay, I’ll bite. Prices were even lower during the Obama years so just what is that underlying problem that Captain DJT Bonespurs has explained a solution for? Drill baby drill? We’re already doing that. Bringing manufacturing back domestically? We’re already doing that. Bringing down inflation? We’re already doing that.

Trump’s big economy speech was entirely bereft of substance. He has no clue.

And Harris is an economic genius?

Buddahaid 08-18-24 08:22 AM

I asked what the underlying problem is you referred to.


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