The first is old.Do not control it。
Arrangement is now followed：

Northern Hemisphere
Southern Hemisphere
Do you understand?

I don't need to understand nothing. Like you, I can read all these datas in these files. What I need, is you, to just answer a single simple question:

In your meaning, does represent YOUR:

EnvColors_Polar.cfg
EnvColors_Polar_A.cfg
EnvColors_Temperate.cfg
EnvColors_Tropical.cfg
EnvColors_Tropical_A.cfg

The colors of the regions on which you set them ?

For example:

Your "EnvColors_Tropical_A.cfg" is affected to map "Color100" and this "Color100" correspond to the region which is the most close to the equator.

http://www.acsoft.ch/tmp/envcol3.jpg

Now, if you compare on the picture here over, the colors of "EnvColors_Tropical_A.cfg" and those of "EnvColors_Tropical.cfg" (picture taken with the same SH5 save situation, therefore same location, same date, same meteo), IT IS OBVIOUS that "EnvColors_Tropical_A.cfg" which is supposed to represent a more tropical climate (more close from the equator) have quite cold colors, almost in comparison with the colors of "EnvColors_Tropical.cfg". So, yes, I really don't understand what you are trying to do.

Also, what to say about the distribution of these colors palettes, along the Earth latitudes ?!? See the picture here after:

http://www.acsoft.ch/tmp/envcol4.jpg

In the red circle, from North to South, You have "Polar_A" followed by "Polar" at level of England and channel between France & Great Britain !!! Then Temperate followed by Tropical_A, followed by Tropical and then again Tropical_A. !?!?!

No doubt you are a very great artist to build very realistic looking ambiance in SH5, but I don't understand nothing to the way your distribute these colors over the World.

ACS

1. I think that the file climatezones.tga was edited few times, and don't know this is W_clear's work. You should read all post at this tread and I'm sure you'll find the answer why climatezones.tga looks like on this picture.

2. Maybe you should use /propose your version of this file. You ask why near England the polar environmant is. I can ask, why these lines between regions are straight? They looks non-real, right?. I found some diffirent versionof climatezones.tga, like on this post: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=240

3. Could you use very simple easy english when asking? Our chineese friend does not speak english very good...

Dear Antar, thanks for trying to help !

I have already done that and it took my hours, because of the number of messages. But unfortunately I didn't really got the answers I was seeking for. I read, for example, some discussions about coastal problems and setting of different color for them, but didn't founded a clear explanation of the reasons why it is better this way. If you read my early previous messages in this thread, you will see I asked for this, but didn't received satisfactory answers.

I have done this already. For example, I founded here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=170162

A work made by a French guy, devoted to W_clear mod. I founded that his climatezones.tga was, to my opinion, the best around, as it respect real world zone distribution, has the trick of different color on coast and even add a suplementary palette Temperate_A.

So I have corrected this nice climatezones.tga map (you know it is my speciality LOL) who had also illegal colors and proposed this work and my collaboration to improve these ClimatZone to W_clear with private messages.

But W_clear refused to go in this direction for reasons who belong to him, like he didn't apparently also took in account the gift made by the French guy. No problem, I respect that. I mean his Mod belong to him, so he decide and do what he want.

I try hard to be as simple as I can. This is why I try also to use often pictures.

But English is also not my mother language. So it is also sometimes difficult for me to explain, depending on what you have to explain.

ACS

I looked for it, thank you!
:up:

Be aware that the original version of the ClimateZones.tga you will find in this thread of the French guy HAS ILLEGAL COLORS.

As I said, I have a corrected version. If you are interested in it, please write to me in private.

ACS

W_clear
Thank you. Its nice :yeah:

beautiful!:up:

South of Ireland is still Polar climate zone (color red value = 0), why?

Good question !!!

ACS

because this mod is very unrealistic in terms of the global division of world climate zones.

http://imgur.com/jJQ3e.jpg

This climatezones.tga made by someone here in the forums (I do not remember who) comes very close to the real distribution of the climate and should perhaps be used in future versions of this mod if the creator of this climatezones.tga agrees.

http://imgur.com/zI98b.png

Perhaps he made it so in order to achieve greater environment diversity around the playable zones, while taking a hit on the simulation aspect.

The game is quite limited with respect to the environment colors combination (even though much above previous versions). The colors are much too precisely defined according to climate zone and weather type.

Perhaps each environment should have been defined with a range of colors, or even allowing a small amount of randomness.

I tried to build my world map as on your 'vegetation' screen... but I use W_clear's map colors (8 colors).
Why on your screen are 10 colors? When W_clear uses only 8?

Another issue: there should be uneven number of zones:
1. Polar <- color 1
2. Arctic <- color 2
3. Cold-temp <- color 3
4. Warm temp <- color 4
5. Sub-tropical <- color 5
6. Tropical <- color 6
7. Sub-tropical <- color 5
8. Warm temp <- color 4
9. Cold temp <- color 3
10. Arctic <- color 2
11. Polar <- color 1

and there are six colors only... and we have 8-10?
http://www.forum.polishseamen.pl/ima...s/drapanie.gif

New underwater can someone post a screenshot of that please, thank you Guys.
:salute:
Rich

Do you want to see 'black' or 'almost black' ?
Load it and test...
:woot:

It is not my climatezones.tga (I don't use this Env_mod here), it's just one example other SH modders have created a zones file which comes closer to the real natural distribution of the cliamte zones than the one from this mod.

Most players always call for realism but with this mod it seems to bother anyone that it is unrealistic in this respect. :hmmm:

But it is W_Clear's decision which type of climate zones he uses in his mod, it should be only a suggestion.

I want to prepare the environment world map based on 'vegetation' map but is a mistake on this map?
No artcic zone at south hemisphere?
http://www.forum.polishseamen.pl/ima...s/drapanie.gif

Since middle of October, I try to convince W_clear to work with a corrected version (no illegal colors) of the following ClimateZones.tga, made by French guy "Astradeus" FOR HIM (see: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=170162)

http://www.acsoft.ch/tmp/envcol5.jpg

I try even to convince him to adopt other improvements Astradeus made, like the addition of a suplementary color palette "Temperate_A". I sent to him a sub-mod I builded from Astradeus work and my own work. I offered to help him doing that, but W_clear DON'T WANT TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION and answered "NO" to me. The same happen apparently already much sooner, with the French Guy "Astradeus".

This is why, since this time, I continue to develop my own Private version of a sub-mod "ClimateZones ACS" which can be applied over W_clear mod. It has a suplementary "Temperate_A" color palette, which is unfortunately for now, just a copy of W_clear "Temperate" palette.

By respect for W_clear, I will make this sub-mod public ONLY IF W_clear GIVE ME HERE THE AUTHORIZATION.

But it would be much better that you guys, try to convince W_clear to take the gift "Astradeus" & "ACSoft" have offered to him.

ACS

EDIT: look what was saying Astradeus to W_clear:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...1&postcount=12

How can we convince a chinese guy about anything without knowing his language? Using the translator will complicate things more.

So .. go for it and make your work public. If you will give them full credit for their work, I see no problem at all. The only problem would be to update your stuff every time they change something..