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Rockstar 12-07-17 05:54 PM

Newly Revealed Experiment Shows How F-35 Could Help Intercept ICBMs

http://www.defenseone.com/technology...-icbms/144365/

Jimbuna 12-08-17 07:01 AM

I certainly would like to think so but am hoping even more so that we never need to find out definitively.

Mr Quatro 12-08-17 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2529740)
Newly Revealed Experiment Shows How F-35 Could Help Intercept ICBMs

http://www.defenseone.com/technology...-icbms/144365/

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2529823)
I certainly would like to think so but am hoping even more so that we never need to find out definitively.

I wish we knew for sure how many missiles the US would have to shoot down if war did ignite ...
not so much nuclear warheads, also nasty chemical warheads aimed a bit closer to our troops.

In all of this fear spreading, the media has started, I see very little information on what artillery shell with mass destruction numbers
could do to our side in Seoul, Korea. :yep:

I did find this interesting:

Could North Korea Annihilate Seoul with Its Artillery?
| The National ...
nationalinterest.org/blog/the.../could-north-korea-annihilate-seoul-its-artillery-20345
Quote:

Apr 25, 2017 - During the Cold War, North Korea built up an oversized army—and artillery corps—as part of its goal of re-invading South Korea. ..... ever 2 minute (that's the norm fire rate for a M110 versus Max which is 3 every 2) puts each one delivering 8 shells down range before we even get a plane off the ground.

mapuc 12-08-17 01:09 PM

After having read one of the lastest statement from KJU where he say a war is inevitable

I got a insight-What if KJU is 110 % sure that Trump is going to attack him and his country. Due to this he have given his forces order to step up the manufactoring of these ICBM and when he seems to have enough, he will make a preemptive strike.

It could also be the other way-Trump is 110 % sure that KJU is going fire all ICBM he has, as soon he has enough of them.

Markus

Mr Quatro 12-08-17 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2529872)
After having read one of the lastest statement from KJU where he say a war is inevitable

I got a insight-What if KJU is 110 % sure that Trump is going to attack him and his country. Due to this he have given his forces order to step up the manufactoring of these ICBM and when he seems to have enough, he will make a preemptive strike.

It could also be the other way-Trump is 110 % sure that KJU is going fire all ICBM he has, as soon he has enough of them.

Markus

Like watching a chess match, uh Markus?

ikalugin 12-08-17 03:37 PM

From what I remember the US IC estimate was that DPRK would be able to build more bombs in 5 or so years than US has ICBM capable interceptors for the Homeland.

They only need simple decoys and stack 3 non independetly targeted RVs on 16 or so ICBMs to get there, stock R36 style:
https://testpilot.ru/espace/bibl/kb-ujn/160.jpg

Jimbuna 12-09-17 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro (Post 2529870)
I wish we knew for sure how many missiles the US would have to shoot down if war did ignite ...
not so much nuclear warheads, also nasty chemical warheads aimed a bit closer to our troops.

In all of this fear spreading, the media has started, I see very little information on what artillery shell with mass destruction numbers
could do to our side in Seoul, Korea. :yep:

I did find this interesting:

Could North Korea Annihilate Seoul with Its Artillery?
| The National ...
nationalinterest.org/blog/the.../could-north-korea-annihilate-seoul-its-artillery-20345

What I find extremely concerning is the fact that something must be done before it's too late but exactly what is the most worrying thing.

Platapus 12-09-17 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2529948)
What I find extremely concerning is the fact that something must be done before it's too late but exactly what is the most worrying thing.

Something must be done? Why?

How about we do nothing and therefore give KJU no reason to commit suicide because he feels his country/regime is threatened?

We could give that a try.

Posturing and sabre rattling has not worked much for the past 60+ years

ikalugin 12-09-17 07:51 AM

Ideology and exceptionalism maybe?

Catfish 12-09-17 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 2529964)
[...]Posturing and sabre rattling has not worked much for the past 60+ years

It has "worked" for a lot of western empires countries, at least they think it has. Pride and patriotism and threats, and invasions, and colonies. And some million deaths, but who cares if you "win".

Jimbuna 12-09-17 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 2529964)
Something must be done? Why?

How about we do nothing and therefore give KJU no reason to commit suicide because he feels his country/regime is threatened?

We could give that a try.

Posturing and sabre rattling has not worked much for the past 60+ years

I'm talking about the next step beyond posturing and sabre rattling.

The guy is intent on creating weapons of mass destruction and vowed to use them.

Sitting back and doing nothing may well send the wrong message and be interpreted as a sign of weakness.

I believe Trump has stacked a lot of chips on US credibility here and sooner or later push is going to turn into shove.

Delgard 12-09-17 11:07 AM

This is no longer a peninsula issue. The U.N. and it's members would then be required to uphold the treaty. It is a US/NK issue in the mind of NK. Maybe rightly so...looking at history.

But, what are the "red" lines for the U.S.? I say that because NK is going to continue developing their ICBMS and warhead technologies.

The U.S. is looking to implement every sanction possible. I heard the other day that NK was open to back-channel discussions but, for me, that is just a stall tactic.

It won't be long before NK will have more missiles than the ABM defenses can handle. Then it will be remove all sanctions unless...

So...what is next for the U.S.?

Jimbuna 12-09-17 11:31 AM

I'd say a tactical pre-emptive strike of conventional means as a possibly starter.

Delgard 12-09-17 12:54 PM

Actually, I thought of that in the past, but had lost track of that.

I thought of nuke processing plants. But, I imagine that and assembly facilities are far underground.

But, that would be taKen rather seriously. Trump better have a good case when he stands before the media.

Mr Quatro 12-09-17 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2530007)
I'd say a tactical pre-emptive strike of conventional means as a possibly starter.

:yep:


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