This .
https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

This too, Follow the (Climate Change) Money

https://www.heritage.org/environment...e-change-money

makes you wonder if that Greta girl is in it for the money as well. :hmmm:

The "Heritage foundation". A least something else than the forever Fox or Breitbart news.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/heritage-foundation/
"Stephen Moore is the Distinguished Visiting Fellow [...]", what is this, a kind of parasite worm?

I begin to hate Greta, the "friday for future" movement (this word has been coined for and during the NS reign), or now the "parents for future" BS, but denying some substantial warming, CO2 rise and that mankind has something to do with it is pure idiocy.

^ :rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:
:up: :haha:

Oh, I thought this was about when your wife went through menopause..

Your politician and your climate friendly companies are making fun of you and me(climate related).

I have and still recycling my plastic, I got somehow mad some month back when most of the plastic the Danes recycle is send to some third world country and dump there and not as those companies have told us, will be reused in other things.

Yesterday the Swedish Parliament decided to put tax on shopping bags
A climate tax so to say

One may think the income from this taxes will be used to improve the the environment and the climate.

No such thing the extra income will be used to lower some other taxes.

They(the politician) use this climate change to steal more money from their voters.

And companies tell people fairy tales.

Markus

Now you're catching on. :03:

Exactly.
Some are abusing the initial green idea, but again this is typically human. Although making money with new technology and at the same time improving and generating less waste is a good thing when it works, and it can generate jobs and new technology.
Problem is that some of the greens and a lot of conservative politicians in Germany have discovered to make money by only pretending to "act green", while pulling money out of (read: abuse) other's idealism.

Could this be the answer to a clean supply of electric power in the future ?

https://www.iflscience.com/technolog...-using-it/all/

Markus

Michael Moore Just Declared War on the Climate Movement

"Obviously, the main factor is delusion."

I've been saying this for years, there's no easy solution to climate change.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo

Are u seriously citing the HERITAGE FOUNDATION!?!?

Also: https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill...pandemic%3famp

I am halfway through the film, will watch the rest this evening.


Saying this since years: WE ARE TOO MANY.


Also saying: WE PUT TRUST IN LEADERSHIP "ELITES" THAT ARE CORRUPT ANd NOT HALF AS COMOETENT AS THEY PRETEND AND THAT DO NOT DESERVE OUR TRUST.


THOSE VOTING FOR THEM TIME AND AGAIN, ARE NOT MORE COMPETENT EITHER.



Global wamring is real, the signs are on every wall. The planet climate is getting hotter. But the science behind wanting to maximise the claimed evidence for that the human factor as a cause is the only factor, is deeply corrupted and driven by profit interest. The whole show is a fundamental wealth redistribution scheme on global scale. Corporations want to defend their profit model to milk it as long as possible (we have seen that before with denial of tobacco ill effects, for example). Rising states want to milk money from the already industrialised states. Left progressives want to punish the wealthy states and distribute the loot amongst poorer states. That the latter often are poor because of their deeply corrupted, criminal leaders, gets ignored almost always.



I honestly think its a hopeless fight if you want to fix all this. All we can do is trying to ADAPT to the warmer world that is right now in the making all around us. Preventing it from becoming warmer, we can no more.


So many people will allways find a million of stupid reasons to just stick to the destructive ways they are used to, and granted, many of these ways are comfortable if you do not look at the long perspective. The "alternatives" are carefully designed PR stunts to nudge them into the wanted directions that bring power and influence for certain NGOs, satisfaction for certain ideological camps, as well as profits for big business corporations.


Its like cutting off heads of the hydra. You cannot win this way. The beast must starve so that it heads start eating each other.



We are too many. 8+ billion just is too much, many billions too much. 8 billions - you cannot avoid this turning life into just a self-destructing cacophony.

Yeah, that's the feeling I've had for years. The film underscores that - we are too many.

I worked in chemical plants for 30+ years, I didn't work in an office until 1998, so I was not detatched from the reality of what it takes for our system to work. Greenies who sell bran muffins and lounge around with their ipads just don't understand that if we want all the energy and material goods we take for granted, it's going to be impossible without fossil fuels.

However-- that being said, I still think nuclear power would help. A lot. The film neglected to mention nuclear at all, a failing. There are issues with it, but it's CO2 free and a long term substitute for power plants, if done right. Bill Gates had a new type of reactor teed up but relied on China and that's been shelved.

Planet of the Humans movie draws outrage as it calls for economic slowdown
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/pla...mics-1.5549693

And that is a big part of the problem. Nuclear should be the best way to generate electricity. Imagine trying to build a large scale hydro electric facility in the continental USA or Canada. Enviromentalists would lose their minds. But you can't have it both ways. There is risk in everything. From driving a car to hiking in the wilderness people take a risk. The question is pretty simple. What kind of risk are we willing to take to keep the current lifestyle that so many enjoy?