SUBSIM Radio Room Forums

SUBSIM Radio Room Forums (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/index.php)
-   General Topics (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/forumdisplay.php?f=175)
-   -   US Politics Thread 2016-2020 (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=228628)

Dowly 03-26-20 07:55 AM

@Rockstar: EU member states are free to close their borders as needed, no permission from the EU is required.

Rockstar 03-26-20 10:07 AM

Yes my understanding is a single member state may temporarily reestablish their old border controls for up to 30 days (did anyone do that?). However if the entire Schengen Area is at risk the Council may, based on a proposal from the Commission, recommend that one or more Member States decide to reintroduce border control at all or at specific parts of their internal borders.
Your Schengen area was at risk and your Council didn't act to close the borders of Schengen Area until it was way over due.


From my perspective, this is what made the decision to close the Schengen Area not the individual Sovereign. Kinda looks like the U.N. and we all know how effective that is.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...urg-inside.jpg


And of course your appointed President.


https://europa.eu/european-union/sit...-der-leyen.jpg

On a side note take a look at https://flightaware.com/live/ it seems everyone is still importing and exporting COVID-19. :doh:

Dowly 03-26-20 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2657405)
Yes my understanding is a single member state may temporarily reestablish their old border controls for up to 30 days (did anyone do that?).

Yes. Number of countries did close their borders either partially or fully prior to any 'permission' from the EU. And again, no permission is needed. If all Schengen area countries decide to close their borders then it is irrelevant whether the Schengen agreement stays on or is suspended since no free travel takes place anyway.

Mr Quatro 03-26-20 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2657358)
But hey it is all the fault of the EU, of course. I must have written this a hundred times here.

I'm wondering? Has EU helped Italy or Spain with the covid-19 problem or have they just been worried about themselves in their own little countries?

Rockstar 03-26-20 11:22 AM

Oh my bad. All those sovereign nations acting in unison the day after, what the 17th of March was it? 4 months after Coronavirus had been made known to the world closed their borders. This right after the appointed E.U. president made her announcement regarding Schengen. That was just a coincidence, got it. :yeah:

Dowly 03-26-20 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2657444)
Oh my bad. All those sovereign nations acting in unison the day after, what the 17th of March was it? 4 months after Coronavirus had been made known to the world closed their borders. This right after the appointed E.U. president made her announcement regarding Schengen. That was just a coincidence, got it. :yeah:

Malta, Slovakia and the Czech Republic -all of which are Schengen countries- announced they close their borders on March 13.

So, again, no permission from EU needed.

mapuc 03-26-20 11:46 AM

Regarding this border controls

Denmark have had border controls since Jan. 2016 and have been extended several times.
Every time the Danish government does this, they have so to say been
called on the carpet by the EU.

It is however first time they have closed the border so tight as they have now.

Markus

Jimbuna 03-26-20 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kptlt. Neuerburg (Post 2657319)

Have to concur there :yep:

Catfish 03-26-20 02:09 PM

I can assure you:
We are doing our best to follow suit :03:

Onkel Neal 03-27-20 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2657702)
Lets face it the U.S. isnt quite number one in infections just yet. Schengen Area with its population of 400 million is still number one and growing. With that I mind I just dont understand the euros infactuation and focus on Trump. Seems they have enough problems in their own backyard to contend with.

They do have their problems but who can ignore the complete disaster Trumpo is inflicting upon himself.

If he has been wise and proactive and taken this seriously, he would be a hero.

He didn't, so he's a bumbling idiot. Pretty simple.

Dowly 03-27-20 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal (Post 2657721)
They do have their problems but who can ignore the complete disaster Trumpo is inflicting upon himself.

If he has been wise and proactive and taken this seriously, he would be a hero.

He didn't, so he's a bumbling idiot. Pretty simple.

Exactly this. He is an idiot put in charge of a situation he doesn't know how to handle so he reverts to downplay its seriousness and giving false hope and reassurances. It's dangerous and reckless.


Quote:

“I have a feeling that a lot of the numbers that are being said in some areas are just bigger than they’re going to be,” he said. “I don't believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators. You go into major hospitals sometimes, and they’ll have two ventilators. And now all of a sudden they’re saying, ‘Can we order 30,000 ventilators?’”
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...navirus-151311

Onkel Neal 03-27-20 10:18 AM

Love your sig pic, lol

August 03-27-20 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal (Post 2657721)
They do have their problems but who can ignore the complete disaster Trumpo is inflicting upon himself.

If he has been wise and proactive and taken this seriously, he would be a hero.

He didn't, so he's a bumbling idiot. Pretty simple.




And yet President Trumps approval rating both against the virus and in general continues to rise in spite of your views. Go figure right? :doh:

Skybird 03-27-20 10:22 AM

I put this into both threads intentionally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWFr6khY2U4

Jimbuna 03-27-20 10:31 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGZpSn1tr54


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:08 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2024 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.