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Good Morning 13th.... Just give up on him please. It's best to let him just figure it out on his own as he is intelligent enough to do it himself. Some things can not be explained to the student.
I'm glad I wasn't his teacher is all I can say, it would have drove me up the wall.

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Originally Posted by Soulcommander

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Allright, messing with the Silent Hunter 3 install program, and it is possible to defeat Starforce and 'never' have it install on your system (This is not a guide to bypassing SF, so don't ask me, and everything I write here has to be legal - This is just a workaround to keep it from installing). I won't say how this is possible other than the fact that Starforces flaw is in how it installs itself - and I discovered it tonight (but had an inkling of before which is what prompted me to try). The key is that SF is 'not' installed upon installing the said software, nor is it installed by patching the said software. It is installed by 'playing' the said software since it is embedded in the exe. That is the key. Don't run it!

To get around the rest, you guys will have to use your own minds because it is against this boards policy to post about bypassing the actual copyprotection.

The point is, if SH3 is your thing to play, it is possible to keep you sys secure and still play SH3. Hopefully SF will be dropped like a hot potato by dev's in the future and we all won't need to worry about it ever again! I'm off to play now, so don't expect me around for a while! :)

-S

PS. I can play SH3 and Sf has never graced the sectors of my HD!!! At least not in this install of XP MCE 2005!!!

Actually this is old news....But I understand your willingness to help. I can tell your a caring guy as by what you posted to try to help others. First off I would like to say that the Dev team has nothing to do with Starforce. The Publisher does, thats my understanding. Correct me someone if it's incorrect.

Second, although I have a willingness to also help everyone I want all of you to know the kind of individule I am...
Yes there is a crack available for SF. But I have not installed it. Nor publicised it. (Until now I guess :stare: )
Yes I love SHIII and would love to play it again without SF.

But here is what I really want to see happen:

I would prefer the Game Publisher provide it! (Ubisoft)
I will suggest this to Ubisoft. Also on any games that are exceptionally old and have dropped in price, it would also be nice to see Staforce removed and not a part of any future releases of those games as well.

The only problem here is "IDENTIFING" what games have Starforce in them and which ones DON'T! I think it's way past time that if UBISOFT still feels Starforce is such a good thing that they give Starforce CREDIT and list them on the outside packaging of the game box!
If the Publishers are so proud of this copy protection then "Give Starforce some Publicity!"

These are all suggestion's I will bring up to Ubisoft. What do you guys think? Shoot me a pm! I will include your name if you provide it as someone that feels the same way.

Of course it's also possible that Ubi takes an active response and becomes the first company to do away with Starforce...This will show the gaming community that Ubisoft does care about it's consumers.
Go back to Safedisc or some other established protection that is not going to mess up your system and hardware.

By your words, I understand that you see what I write as a threat to the campaign - trust me, I will never buy another SF protected game ever again. This workaround only allows me to play that which I already mistakenly purchased - And I tried it because I never remember having to type in that code or wait while the protection loads 'during' the install - only happened after I tried to run the game (It was the first time I saw a SF install, so it caught my eye). If i knew SF was on SH3 (I bought it the day it hit CompUSA), I wouldn't have purchased it at all - even to this day.

As for the old news part, if people already knew about this, where the hell is it posted? It would be nice to see this info more widely available since it allows one who can think through the process to avoid having this ugly SF on their sys! Just a thought.

-S

Sub your right....It has been posted but not enough. ALthough I have been accused as well as others as talking to much about SF. LOL Information is power...
I really have never thought of any of this as a campaign. More of what you were doing. Providing awareness.

What you did was ok in my book.
I just have to watch myself a bit more as I feel I have some responsibility to uphold. Hope you can understand what I mean by that! :up:

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Originally Posted by Soulcommander

I understand, but I also look at it from the perspective that I will still have fun with what I purchased already without them taking it away from me over some copyprotection. You can call it my small act of defiance!!! :)

The point is - I am playing their game, fully patch, without their damn protection! It is like me snubbing my nose at them! On the otherhand, I also won't be giving them another penny of my money if they continue to support such barbaric measures in compromising my system.

What I don't really get is that most of us are probably of an age now where we have rather deep pockets and wouldn't pirate in the first place. Why tick us off now? That is stupid marketing!!!

-S

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Your right on all points. These are things I already pointed out to Ubisoft. I too have stated on the forums as well as to Ubisoft via Phone conversations as well as email, that my money now stays in my pocket if it involves any software containing Starforce copy protection. Others have taken the same stance and yet others have said we are all fools. That's fine, all I care about is my system and if it means no game oh well then it's no game.

I find it also funny at Ubisoft there is a thread at Might and Magic someone started concerning Starforce........
So the discussion goes on in there about it. But then you have posters coming into the SF thread and posting we should close this thread etc etc. I say this:

You don't have to read it my friend. The Header of the original post is clearly Marked. Just skip over it if it doesn't affect your system. You should be happy...
Ubisoft is aware of it I make sure of all the posts that they are. If you are annoyed then as they say turn it off. No one is forcing you to look.
I might also like to add, we don't go into your posts about the game that have nothing to do with Starforce when your discussing other topics to change the subject to Starforce! So why bother comming here to troll? If all of us would raid your other topics here on the forum then you would have the right to demand action and be upset. Your call for it now is uncalled for!

Well actually you can see what I say here:
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums...014#5751056014

It's funny how this happens. I think these fellas have vested interest in the game and are worried about their pockets and if the game is actually going to sell. What else could it be? Its ok for them to troll but if we would do it we would be banned I'm sure of that.

Here the link we been waiting for, I haven't had a chance to read it yet..

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/2006/0..._revisited_uk/

It will also be out on the USA site as well same article....

A thought popped into my head - I still want to play these protected games, yet I refuse to fund the games that are protected in this manner:

Are they turning me into what it is that they are trying to (foolhardily) protect against? :arrgh!:

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Originally Posted by Soulcommander

Here the link we been waiting for, I haven't had a chance to read it yet..

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/2006/0..._revisited_uk/

It will also be out on the USA site as well same article....

The article doesn't really bring to light anything new. Also, it seems to only be on the UK version of Toms Hardware, and not anywhere else! It is just more press that SF probably won't like I guess.

-S

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Originally Posted by Soulcommander

Here the link we been waiting for, I haven't had a chance to read it yet..

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/2006/0..._revisited_uk/

It will also be out on the USA site as well same article....

Well it will be out on the USA Toms soon too. Also...Ubi just banned me from the forums for NO reason! Se how this goes? Even the Ubi moderator that had SF issues GT182 was told off on the forum. Obsurd!

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Here the link we been waiting for, I haven't had a chance to read it yet..

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/2006/0..._revisited_uk/

It will also be out on the USA site as well same article....

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

The article doesn't really bring to light anything new.

Yes, thatÂ´s too bad. Well, at least now we know SCÂ´s and ThirteenthHouRÂ´s real names. :88) <Edit: No, this of course wasnÂ´t a threat, I donÂ´t have a reason to threaten anybody!>

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The article doesn't really bring to light anything new.

Yes, thatÂ´s too bad. Well, at least now we know SCÂ´s and ThirteenthHouRÂ´s real names. :88)

That sounds rather threatening to me.

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Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

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The article doesn't really bring to light anything new.

Yes, thatÂ´s too bad. Well, at least now we know SCÂ´s and ThirteenthHouRÂ´s real names. :88)

yeah Giz that does sound threatning to me too!
you already knew my name and phone number so YOU better just be careful anything that happens to me will go right to YOU!

DonÂ´t be paranoid! :) Subman pointed out that the article doesn't really bring to light to anything new and all IÂ´ve said that at least we now know your names, so the article contained at least some new informations. Geez, guys, lighten up! :)

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DonÂ´t be paranoid! :)

Im not but you better watch youself!

About signing up again it would be easy to do but they use the IP to ban. It would be pointless. I will be talking to Ubi anyway on Monday. LOL It's very funny how these game developers worry about all of the posters on the net that have had issues with SF.

They worry from the pocket book and think banning will stop this! Funny!

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Im not but you better watch youself!

Wow, Larry, calm down, it seems youÂ´re in a very bad mood!

Yeah, watch yourself, Gizzmoe.....'cuz if you don't..........**fist shaking**

Unrelated: Ever notice how people use 'LOL' in sentences that you know that they are not laughing about? Strange.

LOL yeah...

How come everyone is getting so wound up? Remember, arguing on the internet is pretty pointless as neither of you will win. Just chill out, accept that you think the other person is wrong and get on with life.

Now, lets get back to looking at getting rid of Starforge so i can play SHIII

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DonÂ´t be paranoid! :)

Im not but you better watch youself!

About signing up again it would be easy to do but theyuse the IP too to ban. It would be pointless. I will be talking to Ubi anyway on Monday. LOL It's very funny how these game developers worry about all of the posters on the net that have had issues with SF.

They worry from the pocket book and think banning will stop this! Funny!

They can't keep you out (it is impossible) Use a proxy - or release your IP if you have a dynamic IP address. But you must do what you must do.

-S

Its all over this thread that I didn't even start. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums...014#8741074014
Now Im sure Giz and a few others here find it hilarious I got banned.
Actually it will be a releaf for me as I have been going at it for a long time getting the word out.

Let them Ban me it just fuel's the fire even more.

I too was disappointed with Aarons article but only because I thought Ubi and SF would have comments and be interviewed.
But being a journalist and broadcaster myself I know how this works!
We haven't heard the last of this yet and I give Toms Hardware and Aaron credit for writing this and again bringing it to more peoples attention!

Hats off to Aaron!
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