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Originally Posted by keysersoze
(Post 2036932)
@gap I've made some changes the setting of the "Completed Patrols" folder. Can you upload anything now?
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I have not attempted it yet, but now I have an upload icon on the top left corner :up:
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Originally Posted by keysersoze
(Post 2036975)
@gap, could you please have a look at the patrols 2 and 3 for U-33 in the Completed Patrols folder? In patrol 2, we are missing coordinates for 22 Nov. Interpolating them would create a path through land, so I left it blank. Is this okay?
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you can:
- interpolate the missing coordinate using the automatic interpolator
- copy the generated coordinate and paste it in the corresponding lat/long cell as if it was a normal input
- adjust the new input enough to make route not to cross land. In this case you should move the coordinate northward and/or westward :03:
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Originally Posted by keysersoze
(Post 2036975)
Also, on 24 Nov., U-33 successfully attacked a British prize ship while she was on her way back to Wilhelmshaven. Do you want me to set current activity as "Attacking contact" or "Bound to base"? If I set it to "Attacking contact," it looks like there will be two "Ending patrol" messages.
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I think you can leave it as "Attacking contact". We will make the "ending patrol" message as generic as possible, so to encompass cases like this, when some notable event interrupts the return passage. I think that something like "proceeding to base" should make the trick :03:
Talking about the same patrol log, I have a couple of remarks:
- the aforementioned attack is recorded in the wrong date/location. You should move it to Nov 23, when U-33 was sailing NW of Orkneys :yep:
- I have noticed that you have recorded the whole outboud passage until when mines are layed, as "sailing to/from ops area". While this is surely acceptable, I think that mine laying patrols involved flexible orders. When processing other patrols, I have noticed that U-boats could attack enemy contacts even before deploying their mine load, if they got this chance. Subsequently, I have recorded the first part of their patrols as "sailing to patrol area"/"normal patrol" (see below for a quicker use of the latter tag), and I have limited the "sailing to/from ops area" tag to when the boat was definitely heading to the area designed for minelaying operations.
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Originally Posted by keysersoze
(Post 2036975)
For patrol 3, in which U-33 was sunk, we are missing all the positions except for the date of departure and date sunk. Should I leave it the way it is, with all other days blank?
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In no case blank coordinates are an acceptable output; ubootwaffe.net had complete u-boat position logs up to spring '40. Unfortunately this website is off now, and we are left with only two options: either ignore this patrol, or invent the missing coordinates on the base of similar patrols :arrgh!:
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Originally Posted by keysersoze
(Post 2037010)
The first post has been updated with links for the spreadsheet, step-by-step instructions, and relevant examples. Don't be intimidated by the length: I want to explicitly lay out every step to make it as easy as possible for everyone. With a few minutes of work, you could probably figure out about 90% of what is written there.
Please let me know how I can improve the instructions with additional explanations/examples or by simplifying the language.
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Great work! :up:
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Originally Posted by Sartoris
(Post 2037027)
Thanks for the reply. Could you also look into my previous question: Should we remove the comma from the lat/long found on uboat.net? Example: 48.45N, 12.15W
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Good remark, I will upload a new version of the calculator preadsheet where you don't need to remove the comma. I want to do the data input process as fast and easy as possible :up:
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Originally Posted by Sartoris
(Post 2037050)
Thanks for the answer. I have one more question: I'm not sure which long/lat to put in for the Wilhelmshaven port on the first and last day.
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Originally Posted by keysersoze
(Post 2037059)
Another great question. I have been using 53.31N 08.09E for Wilhelmshaven. I had one patrol end in Lorient, and I just googled "Lorient latitude longitude" and google displayed it immediately. I think this should be precise enough for our purposes.
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Maybe we can post a list of common U-boat bases with their lat/long coordinates. Using exactly the same set of coordinates for each location, would allow TDW to use this information for some of the planned radio reports, without need to add any extra information in our logs :hmmm:
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Originally Posted by Trevally.
(Post 2037280)
:sunny:
@Gap
If you use a google toolbar on your browser - you can set it to auto translate sites as you browse. So no need to copy and paste into google translate
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Thank for your suggestion Trev :salute:
I am browsing internet with Google Chrome, which includes the auto translate function, but I thought I would make my suggestion as generic as possible :03:
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Originally Posted by Sartoris
(Post 2037288)
I've just uploaded the excel document for U-34, first patrol. I'd like to ask you to look it over before I copy the information into the u-boat positions document. The map looks a bit weird to me, there are two straight lines going from the patrol area to the uboat's harbor. Did I make a mistake somewhere?
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Very well done Sartoris. :yep:
the error is in the 30 Aug coordinate; you should set it to '48.45N 13.45W' instead of '53.31N 08.09E'. I am glad I have implemented the course plotted on map feature, because it makes it easy to spot and to correct always possible mistakes :know:
A few more remarks:
- you don't need to select anything in the 'current activity' row for normal patrol coordinates: blank cells are automatically recognized as 'normal patrol' anyway. This will make you to spare the time to tag each cell :03:
- similarly, when an attack is recorded in the 'number of ships sunk/damaged' row, you don't need to set its corresponding 'current activity' cell to 'attacking contact': the spreadsheet will automatically recognize attacks, as long as a numerical input equal or bigger than 0 is set. If the setting is 0, a failed attack flag will be generated, otherwise, the output used for radio reporting will be 'successful attack'.
- I have noticed that you have recorded the Estonian Ship "Hanonia", captured on 24 Sep 1939, as a 'sunk/damaged ship'. Since the seizing of ships didn't obviously involve the use of any torpedo, I wouldn't record them at all. Nonetheless, I can create a 'ship catured' input for radio reporting purposes, if you think it is worth it :salute:
P.S: another special tag I am thinking to add is "boat being refitted" :hmm2: