I have to agree, that would probably be the case.:-?

After reading all these posts, and thanks for keeping things civil, what I find abhorrent in the offer is it is trashy, tasteless, and low class. How much to buy the POTUS? Tune in next week!

Just proves you can't buy class no matter how much you have. :salute:

It's the ol' Swift Boat tactics: turn your opponent's strength into a weakness. Right outta the Karl Rove playbook.

I don't see why you have to worry about things staying civil. It ain't like anybody here is gonna loose sleep over any of this.

Some of you see this as an attempt to buy the President and I understand where you're coming from but personally if it's for charity and all it involves is publishing my old college transcripts that are going to end up in my personal library anyways I could be had for far far less than 5 mill.

I just see this as no different than the walks and events we've participated in to benefit various charitable causes over the years. Haven't you guys ever walked a few miles to help cure Muscular Dystrophy or sent your mayor into the dunk tank with a well placed ball toss to benefit the Red Cross?

Now you guys can rightly question Trumps motives here but for that kind of cash going to the charity of my choice i'd release whatever personal records he wants then laugh in his ridiculous face as I take his money and make the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation or the Shriners Childrens Hospital have a banner fundraising year. A far better use for the money than sitting in in his bank account I'll tell you that.

Of course this only works if the records don't contain what Trump is hoping to find.

"But its for charity so it makes it alright really" Jimmy Saville(alledgedly)

Oh I love this... Did anyone notice how the spin changed?

3 pages of left leaning members all crying about how this is all the birther conspiracy reborn....

The spin on that gets shot to pieces - its about questioning the man's character and honesty. Did he "cheat" to get financial aid?

Suddenly, all the posters who were yelling "BIRTHER, BIRTHER!" suddenly have to change tactics. Oh - well now its just low class and Obama shouldn't do it to because it is a "fishing expedition" that would set precedent.

Really? Ya'll are going to have to try yet another spin angle - because political folks have done "fishing expeditions" for a long time... doing so - and responding or not - is hardly "setting a precedent". Care to make up another one?

You see - this is a question about Character.
Obama promised to be transparent. He promised to run government in a transparent way... He even did a memorandum to that effect.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_...penGovernment/

Of course - note the bottom of that document - its legalease for "the above document doesn't mean crap". For a man who wants the vote of the people and claims transparency - its a bit hypocritical to try and keep everything from Libya to Fast and Furious, from Obamacare to college records, away from the people.

You want to talk about setting precedent? If anything - setting a precedent that a man running for president should have an open book on his life is a good precedent for the American people. Sure - every candidate gets the "media exam" - but that has proven to be biased at times. If their history was truly an open book - a lot less politicians would run for POTUS, and those that would (regardless of "side") would be the best of the best in character. America deserves that - don't you think?

Or is it only a requirement when you don't like the other guy's politics. There mere fact that when one claim is debunked, you have to find another way to spin the issue - answers that for us.

Birthers:har::har::har::har::har::har:

The mere fact is that Trump is respinning long debunked crap, and you still are swallowing it.:rotfl2:
what makes it really funny with your attempt is it was already trashed several pages ago when someone easliy pointed out that your "really not a birther" nonsense was trashed 3 years ago.

But hey just for the fun of it as you claim to be a christian, try justifying trumps nonsense from a moral standpoint:haha:

Talking of changing the spin when the arguement has fallen apart "think of the poor little kiddies as its charity" is the line people took a
fter the rubbish you are still swallowing fell apart several pages ago.
Sorry to let reality interupt your Team R birther rant.:doh:

Indeed. No one switched sides. It's still birther crap, and not worthy of a response.

"President Obama, do what I say or the dog gets it!"

*silence*

http://richardwiseman.files.wordpres...dog1.jpg?w=620

*BANG* "Why'd you kill that dog, Mr. President?"

What about them puppies eh?

Please don't do the dog, you know you will regret it in the morning.

Evil. What else?

Post reports incomimg...can we stay within the acceptable behaviour parameters please.

Oh give me a break, the point of a discussion is to communicate. It became apparent from the discussion that this was likely not about birther hysteria. Excuse me for not holding my hands over my ears and saying la-la-la-la so I can stand my ground no matter how unreasonable.

You have your break and yes I agree, it is good to communicate.

http://richardwiseman.files.wordpres...dog1.jpg?w=620

I still kick myself for trashing my NatLampCo mags. :/\\!!:/\\!!

That one was a true classic.

One among many.

And no, I don't have any either, so you're not alone.

Geetrue, you don't have to be even halfway intelligent to find the answers to the "lies".

1. The birth certificate never says "African-American".

2. Though Kenya was not an independent country until 1963, it was called Kenya starting in 1920.

3. The Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital aquired that name in 1931, not 1961.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp

4. It was Obama's mother's father who fought in the war. The president did misspeak on video. He made a mistake. Is that any different than when President Bush senior said on television that the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor on September 7, 1941? I watched that one myself.
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors...MA-SR-WWII.htm

You should really double-check your "facts" before repeating them. It's not Obama's people who lied in this case, it was your own "sources", and you repeated those lies.

Your right Steve ... forgive me.

My only excuse is dial up and old age :oops:

but back to Donald Trump doesn't he have enough money to do his own research?

Of course but that doesn't offer the chance of painting BO in a black light. :D

There's nothing to be found I think. It's all a big bluff that is intended to highlight Obamas lack of transparency. That's why I'd like to see the President call his bluff. 5 million bucks could do a lot of good.

So who actually believes this birther nonsense?

My friend John hates Obama outright, but will never spew birther crap. He thinks Trump is a moron yet is still voting for Romney.

No problem with that, just listening to Trump is what makes me laugh uncontrollably.

"Your fired" is his claim to fame, yeah he should represent Americans.

Alot of Chinese jobs at stake in this election.