*Puts on moderator robe*

Nonsense. When someone of you guys come here and say that it affects the majority of users you better come up with some background informations or at least some basic explanations. If you can´t or you don´t want to then don´t write such things, otherwise it could be seen as libelous and that´s something I can´t and won´t tolerate as a moderator.

Generally speaking, feel free to post any new informations about SF here on Subsim.com, no matter how bad they are, but do not spread informations that you can´t back up for whatever reason.

Agreed.

Also, as long as the topic is about SH3, it can live here. But SF threads belong in General Topics. This forum is for SH3 discussion. I know it comes with SF anti-piracy software but discussions about SF need to go in General Topics. Thanks. :yep:

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Cross your T's and dot those I 's

How about 20% of all systems brought into PCWorld in the last 3 weeks. All suffering with DMA step down, inability to burn ISO's etc, all attributed to Star Force (Information supplied by PCWorld Senior Engineer)

(PCWorld= The largest Computer retailer in the UK, Part of the Dixons Group)

Or Security Technologies (Starforce) Tech support site (Root Admin) 'Nerva' admitting that their programmer does not know how to cure these problems (And quoting my fix).

Even Dennis (Of Security Technologies fame) won't make comments about this as he knows I will drag him through the coals.

Not wishing to flame, but maybe moderators should not make comments that they cannot backup with evidence.

I think it works both ways. Don't be saying things you can't prove because I can't see your system.

The facts are all over the net. Facts from peoples accounts of problems as well as facts coming in from manufactures. And The proof as you constantly want and even call me about on the phone is not going to be given to you. Partly because of legal reasons.

Also, your threat to me and William was not taken lightly, I see those posts were deleted. But Know that any more threats like this are being looked at. The owner of this site may not know whats going on but if he would like my telephone number I would be glad to speak to him about it personally!

Me threatening ThirteenthHouR and you? Deleted posts? WTH are you talking about? Maybe this? http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopi...=455467#455467

A few posts ago you told me that it´s not ok to use limited data. 3 weeks of collected data from a single retailer is limited data, it´s not enough so that you can say that the majority of users are affected. Many millions of SF-protected games were sold, you simply cannot know how many people were affected worldwide in the past one or two years. Simple fact.

Thanks for finding it. I see you edited the info. Nice of you to do that since right after you posted that my phone rang with a death threat and then shortly after that call, you call me.

What are you insinuating here?

You asked for an example I gave you an example.

Btw I did not say 'Single Store', please look at www.pcworld.co.uk they just happen to a be the largest chain of Warehouse type computers stores in the United Kingdom.

On that note you made a claim that because it did not occur to you that it did not occur Generally to other users. One user is rather different to 30,000 + on the balance of probabilities.

The other matter given that other response in questrion was directly from Security Technologies, are you now saying that they are not in the position to know what problems their own software causes?

Dude will you please stop trying to incite a flame war?

As I said before, I'm sure glad I wasn't your teacher in school.

Facts are facts. Numbers are numbers. Do you need a bird to fly over you and do it's job before you realize a bird does have bodily functions.

Do you also know that many people that have SF installed and have had issues are not as intelligent as some and will never know what there problem was?

I love it when you moderators like to turn the waters to try to fool the general public that comes seeking information. I hope you are entertained by our postings.

If this does not get back on track very very soon this thread will go the way of all of the previous Starforce threads, and quietly disappear.

Enough of the insults and conspiracy theories.

JCC

What insults what conspiracy theories? You don't have the facts Mr. Channing. Maybe you would like to talk to the authorities?

Im sure Mr. Gizmoe is being watched very closely, he has my personal info and tele number. I don't see any problems until Giz cites posts that cause us to respond. Maybe he needs to just remain helpful like we are. Instead the INSULTS as you call them come from him.

Guess you haven't been watching the posts and deleted info very closely. Maybe a call is needed to the owner of this forum,not by myself but by someone above himself and myself.

I don't take threats lightly when it involves my family.


Do you?

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No insults here, Gizzmoe seems to have problem as to what is genuine information, Even when it comes from Security Technoligies themselves he still refuses to accept it. (although he has been quoting them all along).

From what I have observed the SF threads have been quite calm and no problems occured until Gizzmoe (No offence ment to the guy) starts injecting comments, making acusations etc which are completly unfounded then expects nobody to challenge him on that.

Moderator or not, its not a reasonable way to go about business on a forum. Personally I know from experience as I own a number of sites and very large forums. If Gizzmoe had been one of my moderators he would have been warned ages ago, but he is not and that is an issue that is entirely left up to yourselves to deal with.

I would add that on numerous occassions I have had to play devils advocate between Gizzmoe and other posters to stop flame wars occuring. I should not have to do that.