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Well...I think the developers should be able to protect their interest. I`ve had starforce problems also. Just make sure the protection system is researched properly. I`m not happy about starforce or any other copy protection system, but I believe it to be a necessary evil.

JUST MAKE SURE IT WORKS AS ADVERTISED

Any protection is fine as long as its not starforce.

OK. I removed SH3 from my system, but how do I remove Starforce drivers? Anybody know how?

SD

Well, the only thing that I know of is to download the removal tool. Other than that, to be absolutely sure they ate gone is to probably reformat the harddrive. :shifty:

http://www.onlinesecurity-on.com/protect.phtml?c=55

Common StarForce Removal Tool:
http://www.onlinesecurity-on.com/protect.phtml?c=55

Some game developer studions, Codemaster or Eagle Dynamics for example, offers also their own removal tool! :up:

Just to say

NO STARFORCE PLEASE UBI

they wont put it in now ive said that :yep:

A little story for you!

I have 2 DVD burners on my computer working 100% perfectly fine!!

I burned at least 15 DVDs for relatives and Friends this Christmas with NOT 1 Problems At all.
meanwhile I had been having some problems hosting MP games on my other computer that I use strictly for gaming, any way I put SH3 on my server to host and was going to use a fresh install and NO mods to to try to figure out why my MP games keep crashing and now thanks to Star $%#ing Force all of my DVD burns fail 90%of the time and when I do get a burn with out failing the DVD is usually messed UP.
The good news is that I have my drive Ghosted and can restore it the the way it was before I installed SF and now It works perfectly the way it did before, and BTW removing the SF driver does not fix the problem.
So please quit sticking up for the anti pirates crowd because just like Green Peace they cause more problems for the law abiding than problems for the pirates!
This is a Fact because there is a No CD patch for SH3 that you do not have to have SF installed to play!!! so really the point. they are not going to fix it because if you listen to them there is noting wrong with it, If they wanted to do something they could with other ways other than SF but it all has to do with money changeing hand in the Executive lobby!

Here is another: http://www.star-force.com/protection.phtml?c=91

Not!

I can`t burn ISO images is one of my problems. I don`t think starforce should be used again. I`d rather pay an xtra 5 bucks for a more expensive and less intrusive copy protection system.

Starforce :nope:

No-DVD files kicking Starforce´s ass :yep:

Guys, if you put the numbers of members of all the SH111 forums together, you'll get a figure that represents about one percent of total sales. Ubisoft's decision regarding protection for SH1V will not be influenced at all by any opinions expressed here. Such forums are however very useful for the DEVs.

Hello all...Some breaking info!!!!!




Wanted you to see this post this guy seems to know whats going on........and is the latest post that really sheds some light on things!
Be sure to check out his webpage too. I can't share what he told me in a personal email but I know this gentleman is on the up and up! PLEASE do READ THESE!!!!!


http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums...2871061083/p/5

Scroll down slowly to 13thhr !!!!

Also the forum moderator comments on SHIII forum BE SURE TO CHECK THIS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums...3/m/4001086693

I will keep you all updated as normal.

SC

copied Info.Starforce has received criticism for installing its own device driver onto computers. The Starforce drivers are often linked to system instability and computer crashes. If these problems occur, the end-user would be unware as to the cause of the problem, and would be helpless to solve the problem.

Moreover, the Starforce drivers, installed on your system, grant ring 0 (system level) privileges to any code under the ring 3 (user level) privileges. Thus, any virus or trojan can get OS privileges and totally control your system. Since Windows 2000, the Windows line security and stability got enhanced by separating those privileges, but with the Starforce drivers, the old system holes and instabilities are back and any program (or virus) can reach the core of your system by using the Starforce drivers as a backdoor.

Is my system concerned,check device manager In the menu above select View and select Show Hidden Devices:If you have Staforce, it will be listed under the Non-plug and play drivers tree:If you remove,you won't be able to play SHIII. BEWARE, We all would like a solution!----http://www.glop.org/starforce/---removal tool---LOL

That doesn´t really matter as 99% of all home users are logged in with admin rights, not restricted user rights. Viruses or trojans don´t need SF to kill your system.

What I find interesting is - Why is it that the same 2 moderators have jumped to the defence of 2 instance's of dubious pracises of 2 company's that directly or indirectly effect the ppl on these forums. I cant help thinking that either they just like to be the devils advocate and stir things along or are indeed blind as the proverbial bat and as deaf as a door post.

1 doesn't need to see jimmy putting his hand in the cookie jar to know he stole them when all other options are improbable.

It makes 1 wonder as to their motives in the grand scheme of things.